Mets Deal Cameron to San Diego

[Guest ABG]

For 1b/of Xavier Nady

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets111705,0,3501142.story?coll=ny-mets-bigpix

[seawolf17]

Wh-WHA?!?!

Interesting deal.

(1) Solves the first-base problem. He can platoon with Jacobs; they're probably very similar offensively.
(2) He's going to be 27 next year, which puts him smack-dab in the beginning of his prime.
(3) Saves the Mets some cash (unless they paid part or all of Cameron's salary, which is likely).

I like it.

[Guest cooby]

Plus it creates a spot for Manny

[Guest sharpie]

Unless they plan to play him in right.

(on edit) Wouldn't Cameron have been in any Manny trade?

[Willets Point]

What do we know about Xavier Nady?

[metirish]

Could it be Nady will be on his way to Boston, they need a first baseman?

[Guest sharpie]

He is the greatest hitter whose first or last name begins with the letter X.

[Centerfield]

Xavier Nady:

.261, 13 HR, 43 RBI, .760 OPS

Ok. Now, someone explain to me why this deal makes sense.

[seawolf17]

CF-

Nady is younger, cheaper, creates offense at a position where we need some offense (those stats are in 350 AB), can play the outfield if need be, and yes, he can be used as better trade bait down the road than an aging strikeout machine who can play defense.

I still like this deal.

[metirish]

I can't but my people are telling me that Omar is going to flip Nady and other pieces in a bigger deal.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Wow.

[metirish]

I doubt Cameron will be upset over this, I'll miss him though, he's a good guy...

[Frayed Knot]

Well, I like it better than if he gone for relief pitching as was rumored.


Xavier Nady was a fairly highly touted prospect a few years back.
IIRC, his 2004 was cut short due to an injury of some kind.

Positives: He's younger (just turned 27), cheaper (maybe arb eligible), and we've probably already seen Cameron's ceiling who isn't ideally suited for RF anyway.
Nady can play 1st or the OF - I seem to remember the Pads wanting to move him to 1st although I'm not sure if that was due to the fact that he wasn't that good out there or just a numbers situation. Maybe both.
Hits righty so can platoon w/Jacobs at 1st.

Negatives: Not as fast, worse glove if an OFer. Not as good a bat now and maybe never will hit as well.
Maybe someone else would have given us more.


I always like Cammy, probably more than most Met fans and maybe more than he deserved. I just thought his 61 extra-base hit season in '04 was brushed off due to overblown BA & K numbers. Plus his less-than gold glove season in CF was treated as if he was a stumbling bum by know-nothings who acted as if they were guaranteed an errorless season.


Projected typical Met fan reaction:
"Good, Cameron SUCKS ... why didn't we get more for him?"


And speculation will surely start that this is a prelude to another trade (see Ramirez, Manny)

[G-Fafif]

San Diego of all places. Hope Cammy doesn't have flashbacks.

[Elster88]

Frayed Knot wrote: Well, I like it better than if he gone for relief pitching as was rumored.

Yeah, but not much better. Does anyone else think that he's could've brought more back?
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[Guest ScarletKnight41]

I'm surprised.

I probably shouldn't be. But I am.

[Diamond Dad]

Cameron's stats last year offensively were about the same as Nady's, in about the same number of at bats.

Nady was a highly tauted prospect a few years ago, but has never gotten the chance to play as a regular. Maybe because he was not as good as his hype.

I think the Mets could have gotten more for Cameron, but on the other hand he's damanged goods after last season, so perhaps the market was small.

If we're not paying any of Cameron's salary, then it's probably a good deal.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Nady can swing between first and right, depending on who hits more, Diaz or Jaocbs. If both hit, he can swing as a rule, making a Diaz/Jacobs platoon.

Cammie, we hardly knew ye.

LaBreka, we never saw ye.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

321/388/450 vs. LHP over the last few years, 2 of 'em at Petco.

I can imagine he'd mesh nicely with Jake at 1B and Diaz in RF as need be, be a PHer, etc.

Yeah, maybe we coulda got more, considering he's a fulltimer with good 2ndary skills at a rare position and he goes for a part-timer without speed at a replaceable position.

Cammy's slid down the "traded-for" food chain: He was swapped for Konerko and Griffey Jr previously.

[Guest sharpie]

Means Beltran won't go in any Manny trade.

Bad news for Dave Roberts.

[Guest Rotblatt]

Huh. I'd have thought we could do better, but he's young and has some upside. I had resigned myself to the Otsuka deal . . . I think I like this better.

He's been flashing more power each of the past three years and he seems to be getting somewhat better at drawing walks, although he's hardly an on-base machine.

Seems pretty similar to Victor if you ask me.

So I'm guessing that Konerko, Manny & Delgado are now off the table. Does that mean we're abandoning the "big bopper" concept, or are we focusing on (eek) Soriano now?

[Guest rpackrat]

Those platoon splits look good. If the plan is to platoon him with Jacobs and have him as a RH bat off the bench, this might work out. But I liked Cameron and I think we could have gotten more. OTOH, the Newsday article said SD is picking up all of Cameron's salary, so that frees up several mil for another deal or, as pointe dout by others, maybe Nady will be flipped in another deal.

[Guest heep]

Alright. Instead of Julio Franco plattoning, we have Nady.

Looks like more of a salary dump than anything else. Omar was always a supporter of Victor Diaz. At the moment, it looks like he will get his shot.

If they are dumping salaries, Matsui is next.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Xavier Nady. Sounds like a high-school prog-rock band.

[Guest abogdan]

Is Nady even arb-eligible yet? Offensively, the two are probably close to a wash, with X on the way slightly up and Cammy trending downwards. Defensively, of course, Cammy is better, but not $7 million better. My only concern is that the Mets have a number of holes to fill and they just filled one of the smaller ones by using one of their better trading chips.

[nymr83]

Edgy DC wrote: Nady can swing between first and right, depending on who hits more, Diaz or Jaocbs. If both hit, he can swing as a rule, making a Diaz/Jacobs platoon.

="Johnny Dickshot"] 321/388/450 vs. LHP over the last few years, 2 of 'em at Petco. I can imagine he'd mesh nicely with Jake at 1B and Diaz in RF as need be, be a PHer, etc.

i think its a good move for the reasons stated above and because i don't think Cameron's trade value coming off the injury is as high as we may like to imagine.

[Valadius]

FUCK!!!!

There goes our right-field defense.

[Guest Beenso]

when i first heard this one, i was a little shocked, but when i thought about it, its really not that bad (as long as the mets arent sending money over also)....nady is a decent player whos got some pop and only really played part-time last year....actually the reason for me not caring much aout this trade is because i really dont care about cameron....but who knows...gotta wait and see

[Guest Edgy DC]

Betcha PECOTA says Nady is as good a bet as anybody for a breakthrough.

Way till you guys see PECOTA.

Still hate trades.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Well, at least now when Vic goes to a game at Shea and starts yelling, "Go, Nads!" everyone won't think he's crazy.