Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 This isn't exactly rap on the level of George Foster, but here some classic baseball poetry:Lineup for Yesterdayby Ogden NashA is for AlexThe great Alexander;More Goose eggs he pitchedThan a popular gander.B is for BresnahanBack of the plate;The Cubs were his love,and McGraw his hate.C is for Cobb,Who grew spikes and not corn,And made all the basemenWish they weren't born.D is for Dean,The grammatical Diz,When they asked, Who's the tops?Said correctly, I is.E is for Evers,His jaw in advance;Never afraidTo Tinker with Chance.F is for FordhamAnd Frankie and Frisch;I wish he were backWith the Giants, I wish.G is for Gehrig,The Pride of the Stadium;His record pure gold,His courage, pure radium.H is for Hornsby;When pitching to Rog,The pitcher would pitch,Then the pitcher would dodge.I is for Me,Not a hard-hitting man,But an outstanding all-timeIncurable fan.J is for JohnsonThe Big Train in his primeWas so fast he could throwThree strikes at a time.K is for Keeler,As fresh as green paint,The fastest and mostestTo hit where they ain't.L is for LajoieWhom Clevelanders love,Napolean himself,With glue in his glove.M is for Matty,Who carried a charmIn the form of an extrabrain in his arm.N is for Newsom,Bobo's favorite kin.You ask how he's here,He talked himself in.O is for OttOf the restless right foot.When he leaned on the pellet,The pellet stayed put.P is for Plank,The arm of the A's;When he tangled with MattyGames lasted for days.Q is for Don QuixoteCornelius Mack;Neither Yankees nor yearsCan halt his attack.R is for Ruth.To tell you the truth,There's just no more to be said,Just R is for Ruth.S is for Speaker,Swift center-field tender,When the ball saw him coming,It yelled, "I surrender."T is for TerryThe Giant from MemphisWhose .400 averageYou can't overemphis.U would be 'Ubellif Carl were a cockney;We say Hubbell and BaseballLike Football and Rockne.V is for VanceThe Dodger's very own Dazzy;None of his rivalsCould throw as fast as he.W is for Wagner,The bowlegged beauty;Short was closed to all trafficWith Honus on duty.X is the firstof two x's in FoxxWho was right behind Ruthwith his powerful soxx.Y is for YoungThe magnificent Cy;People battled against him,But I never knew why.Z is for ZenithThe summit of fame.These men are up there.These men are the game.We should do this for the Mets!Here's how it will work:We start with the letter A. (It's the first letter of the alphabet.)Submit a four-line entry, in the spirit of Ogden Nash, for the letter A.If your A player has already been covered, go ahead and submit another for that same player.If you think you can improve on something that someone else has previously submitted, go ahead and submit your version.When A seems exhausted, we can move to B. (We can always come back to previous letters, too.)Maybe, if this works out, we'll all have collaborated on a kick-ass Ogden Nash style poem about the Mets.I'll kick things off with this humble submission:A, AgbayaniBut we call him BennyHis homer off FriscoBrought pleasure to many
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 ]E is for Evers,His jaw in advance;Never afraidTo Tinker with Chance.Not that there's anything wrong with that.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 B is for BensonOur quiet 'Ace in the Hole'Brought his fastball from PittsburghPulled his wife off the poleor B is for BellDerek parked his yacht in the soundWent from fast start, to slumping,to 'Operation Shutdown'
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Author Posted September 2, 2005 I like those.But are we already done with A?
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 A is for Ashburn,An old vet from Philly,Shouted "Yo La Tengo,"But still got knocked silly.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Edit: Sorry, I'm not good with rules.A is AlfonzoDashing in thirteenHad 6 hits against HoustonOne of the 10 best Avi'd seen
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 C is for CarterWho could play through an acheI think his smile was realBut hs curls wre all fake
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 C is for cookie, that's good enough for me.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Seo just comes off the DL in mid-season form.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 A is for AndersonA pinch-hitting sharkWhose big celebrationWas inside-the-park
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Come on now, which "A" means the most to all of you?A is for AgeeThe Miracle ManWhose diving catchesThrilled many a fan.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 A is for AstacioTorn labrum had heStill had a one hitterBut could not save Bobby V.
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Work on your metrics.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 This has been a great posting day. Everyone's bringing their "A" game today. Nice job, everyone.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 A is for AllenThey say he'd drink til he's wreckedGot shipped to St. LouieFor an 8-ball-whacked Mex
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 You people are killing me. My head has done eleven 360s from the fractured scansion already.I know Ogden Nash. I've read Ogden Nash. You, sirs, are no Ogden Nashes.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I don't know what a fractured scansion is.I try to make rhymes. Rhymes make me giggle.
Guest sharpie Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 A is for AaseAlphabetically firstWho's homer to RandolphWas '89's worst.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Bret Sabermetric wrote:You people are killing me. My head has done eleven 360s from the fractured scansion already.I know Ogden Nash. I've read Ogden Nash. You, sirs, are no Ogden Nashes.All you do is criticize. You'd think you were an English professor or something. Oh wait....
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 A is for Alomarboth father and sonthe pop never hitand his kid was plain done
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 A Boy Named Seo wrote:I don't know what a fractured scansion is.I try to make rhymes. Rhymes make me giggle.If you don't mind, ABNS, I'll tell you. Wrecked and Mex don't rhyme. Mex rhymes with Wrex (or wrecks or rex) and Wrecked rhymes with Mecked, which doesn't happen to be a word.But the scansion problems come in when you've got a line with two feet (two beats, two stresses, whatever terminology you want to use) such as "They say he'd drink til he's wrecked"--there's no way, with seven syllables you're going to be able to find only two stresses in that line, so you're going to hurry it, swallow some syllables, or find some other false way to squeeze seven syllables into only two feet of room. That makes the line scan wrong.An easy solution would be to re-word: "who'd drink til he's wrecked."Now it's still a little screwy, because your tenses are now off (it should be "who'd drink til he was wrecked," but that's too many syllable for a two foot line again). If you changed it to "who'd drink until wrecked," slipping that elided syllable back in in front of the 'til," which you cut in the first place to eliminate a not-strictly-necessary syllable from a too-crowded line, you'd be ok, though the diction now sounds a little arch for the subject matter.Then you'd work on straightening out the rhyme, and other stuff.Sorry if I'm coming off like a pedantic bore, but just try to imagine someone doing what you do for a living, only without any training or experience, and imagine how you'd react to their first few attempts. If the Old Mole, who's more skilled than I am as a versifier, shows up, maybe hecan conduct a short seminar on principles of verse.
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Look at Frayed Knot's quatrain, for an extended example. He's got filler all over the place. Several syllables can easily be cut, making the whole thing a lot smoother. Instead ofA is for Alomar both father and son the pop never hit and his kid was plain donewe cut most of the introductory syllables, which are mainly redundant anyway, and we get A is for Alomar,father and son. Pop never hit and his kid was plain donewhich is closer to sounding like Nash, only Nash had a certain wit, as well, which is much harder to replicate.So if I can offer a further editorial amendment to FK's fine first draft, I'd create a little parallelism:A is for Alomar,father and son. Pop had no popand his kid had no fun.This is maybe 15% or 20% of a full-powered Nash quatrain, but we're starting to get there.Just tell me to STFU and I'll stop. I really don't want to go tedious on your asses, but I'm gearing up for my first creative writing class next week.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Bret Sabermetric wrote:Just tell me to STFU and I'll stop. Oh sure we tell you to STFU and they you'll go on one of your 'I'm persecuted because I'm not a Mets fan" tirades. I'm not falling for that.OE: Kee droppin th fina letter i th word I writ latel. Tha annoy m!
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Actually, Sal did a damn good job with the Alomar quatrain. Bravo.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 That's good stuff, Sal. I didn't know any of that. And I've honestly never seen Ogden Nash's show, either (the one with Don Johnson, right?). Yes, I'm fucking around, but I don't know Ogden Nash, either. I've never been much of a scholar.You'll probably still cringe with my upcoming fractured Bonilla verse, but I'll pay attention to it now, anyway, and try to give it less feet. But your last post (where you explained it) was a lot more helpful than your previous one (where you just said your head was spinning). Pedantic maybe (I looked it up), but not a bore.
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 C is for CastroBackstop Plan-BHis bat has been clutchbut damn he's ugly
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I am one that knows what's to beBut the Miracle Metsmade me doubt what AaseI was Kurt with Abbottand sold Jack and AkerKurt's skills proved him falseand Jack's deed?Even faker.Mex sure covered lots of turfso we sure got our AllensworthSandy said: "Bert, you Alo-marred your reputationwhen you gave the ump a demonstration of your skilled expectorationThere's been manny an Alexanderbut most have been a good deal granderAguilera and Anderson pulled off a neat trickby getting their moms to name them both RickSayonari Agbayanioff to Japanto make more monnieAcevedo, time to goJuan time's enough to see the showHi, A-G U-R-2 meall that I still C-U-Bin my mind's Ithe king of "D"to be continued...
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 B is for BackmanHard-nosed as hellRarely went deepBut played the game well.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 2, 2005 Author Posted September 2, 2005 ]Just tell me to STFU and I'll stop.I found it interesting. I'm no literary scholar either, but I've always liked Ogden Nash, especially that poem. If you want to take any of our verses and make them more Nashified, I say get out your red pen and start Nashing.
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