Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Here's why the Nats won;t last: Bad chemistry!!!!!Guillen Wanted PaybackHe Was Peeved Loaiza Didn't Throw at MetsBy Barry SvrlugaWashington Post Staff WriterThursday, July 7, 2005; E07For the first three months of the season, outfielder Jose Guillen has been welcomed by the Washington Nationals, both because of his bat and his apparent desire to win. But Tuesday night, after being hit by a pitch in the Nationals' 3-2 victory over the New York Mets, Guillen had a flare-up that several Nationals players and coaches said concerned them.Mets pitcher Pedro Martinez hit Guillen with a pitch in the first inning, and Guillen -- according to several sources -- became incensed that the Nationals didn't retaliate. Several sources said he had a confrontation in the dugout prior to the bottom of the second inning with pitcher Esteban Loaiza and catcher Brian Schneider."He was on first base, and then we went back on the field [in the top of the second], and then came back in the dugout, and it was our turn up to bat, and he said he told me to hit somebody," Loaiza said yesterday. "He never mentioned anything to me, and then he started going after Schneider. And Schneider didn't hear him, either."And everybody was mad. I was mad. Eventually, some of our teammates had to calm us down. We still had a lot more game left."Loaiza, who gave up one run in just more than eight innings, said retaliation, in such a close game, was ill-advised. "We don't need to get nobody thrown out," he said.Guillen, who declined to speak to reporters after Tuesday's game, said repeatedly yesterday that he was not upset at being hit by Martinez, the fourth time his fellow native of the Dominican Republic has hit him during his career. Teammates privately said Guillen's actions showed differently.Guillen said that he was actually upset about an errant throw he made in the ninth inning, one that put the tying run on second base. As for being hit, he said: "It's part of the game. It's over. We've got to move on."Guillen did allow, however, that being hit by the pitch motivated him. He went 3 for 3 and drove in the Nationals' final run. He is tied for second in the National League with 10 hit-by-pitches."All the time I get hit, that's a wakeup call for me," Guillen said. "That makes me an even better player. So, it makes me even more angry, more hungry to go play the game, [to] just do some better stuff and help this team win."Prior to Tuesday night, Guillen's moods were primarily tied to whether the club won or lost. All season, players have raved about the club's chemistry, and they consider it an essential element in their rise to first place in the NL East. As one player said yesterday, "We don't need that right now." Some players elected yesterday not to speak to Guillen, who did not take batting practice before the game. Manager Frank Robinson gave him time to collect himself before addressing the situation."I'm a pitcher," Loaiza said. "We know what we're capable of doing in situations like that. We've got to take care of our business and not allow nobody runs, especially a team like that, especially against a pitcher that they're throwing, Pedro. Who knows if we have a chance to win a game, a close game, if we hit a guy?"
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Guillien got three hits after being hit by Pedro, what's his problem, and I like Loaiza's answer...it's about winning, Guillien has been hit by the Mets a few times this season so I suppose he must be wondering WTF?
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Cubbies and Braves have one of those jive-ass two-admission double-headers today.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 So nice they named it twiceReyesCameronBeltranFloydPiazzaAndersonWrightCairoBunchCesspool on the PotomacWilkersonCarrollVidroBaergaCastillaSchneiderByrdCepickyArmasThat's right. Carlos Baerga hitting cleanup again.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Top 1:Reyes - BB, SBCameron - Sac BuntBeltran - RBI GOFloyd - 1BPiazza - K1 - 0 Good guys
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Good guys Metufacture a first-inning run on a walk, stolen base, sacrifice bunt and RBI ground-out.See what walks do!
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Reyes walks, steals second, goes to third on Cammy's bunt, scores on Beltran's groundout. Exactly how Willie drew it up.B-b-b-but, bunting is for losers!
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Second game in a row that they score before the 4th inning.
Guest KC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 They just showed Frank Howard in the stands and were talking about him.I looked up his bbr page and here's the site that sponsors his page.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Back around 1989 I was working for a newspaper when we learned, last minute, that Hondo was making an appearance at a local liquor store. I hustled over and arrived unprepared for an interview with him. I tried to get him to discuss managing the Mets during Strawberry�s rookie year and a few other things. He mostly smiled and answered just about every question with a pitch for Jim Beam bourbon, which was paying him to make the appearance. �These guys make a great product!� He signed baseballs with the Jim Beam logo on them. Because it was last minute we didn�t have a photographer there, so I grabbed the staff camera and tried to snap him candidly but every time I tried to click he turned at the camera and gave a big cheesy smile.About the only thing I recall him saying of any substance was that in all his years of baseball he learned that the difference between a first place team and a last place team was 2 or 3 players.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 All that and more on Johnny Dickshot: Cub Reporter, after the game.A third-inning rally puts the Nats ahead 2-1.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Infield single by the pitcher? Can anyone give more details?
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 I'm suspicious that my Gameday thingy says this rally started on a "single to 3rd base." Are we completely shitting the bed on D again today?
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Beltran opens the Metly fourth with a single.Let's knock out Armas NOW!!!!
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 According to Game Day, Cliff Floyd is facing the extremely small-headed Tony Armas .
Guest KC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Piazza doubles to the gap scoring the game tying Beltran from first!
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Yay Batch! Pound the small headed one!
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Cameron's first-inning homer yestereday is the team's only DC homer so far, isn't it?
Guest Rotblatt Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Two outs and it's up to David to find a way to send Piazza chugging to home plate . . .Do we have a nickname for David? Batch II, perhaps?
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 The Man Who Thinks too Much.The Virginia Beach Batch.The Slaughter from Tidewater.
duan Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 I might over think this kinda stuff, but I really want Aramas gone this inning, the nats have 4 good relievers you need innings to get your teeth into them - stopping them playing matchups and getting ahead before Cordero gets in.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 In the meantime lets hope Benson doesn't give back another lead.
duan Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 i wouldn't be upset about walking wilkerson to get to carroll here.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Caroll singles and goes to second on a throw.Rusty Vidro gets the IBB to pitch to Carlos Baerga with the bases loaded.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Cooby's favorite just misses a bases loaded hit down the line.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 5 IP, 3 H, 3 K, 1 BB for Armas, but he's already up to 93 pitches.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 That was like, kinda nerveracking.
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