IGT: NYM@MIA, 2025-05-24

[Edgy MD]

Benge had a challenge available to him.

Striking out with two out in the ninth with the go-ahead run in scoring position seemse to be when you'd use it.

Probably a strike anyhow, of course.

[Edgy MD]

This is very much like that period in 2021 when everybody was hurt, Kalil Lee and Joneshwy Fargas were in the lineup, the offense was alternately scoring one and zero every night, but the Mets were staying in games by playing for the scoreless tie and hoping they could win on penalty kicks.

[Frayed Knot]

For the second Devin Williams outing in a row, he goes immediately to the 'Ghost Runner' situation.

[Radar]

And there you go.

[Frayed Knot]

Not that it mattered but that's the sixth Grand Slam allowed by NYM pitchers this season. SIX, in 1/3 of a season!

Didn't the Mets go like a year and a half without hitting one some years back?

[Centerfield]

30 minutes ago, Edgy MD said:

Benge had a challenge available to him.

Striking out with two out in the ninth with the go-ahead run in scoring position seemse to be when you'd use it.

Probably a strike anyhow, of course.

It doesn’t even matter if it’s a strike. You have to try on anything close. 

[The Hot Corner]

29 minutes ago, Frayed Knot said:

Not that it mattered but that's the sixth Grand Slam allowed by NYM pitchers this season. SIX, in 1/3 of a season!

Didn't the Mets go like a year and a half without hitting one some years back?

Not surprisingly, the Mets haven't hit a grand slam this season.  Of course it is difficult to hit a grand slam when the team seldom has 3 men on base in an inning (let alone all at the same time) and the team doesn't hit well with men in scoring position (or any other time).

[ashie62]

They will continue to lose. The kids will play more. Guys will get traded and they will lose 90-100 games

I don't think I can swayed on this

This is a very bad baseball team

[Edgy MD]

2 hours ago, Centerfield said:

It doesn’t even matter if it’s a strike. You have to try on anything close. 

Close it was.

[Centerfield]

There’s nothing to be lost by challenging. This has happened a few times this trip. It’s a sign of bad coaching. 

[whippoorwill]

6 hours ago, Radar said:

1:40

Thank you

[The Hot Corner]

51 minutes ago, Centerfield said:

There’s nothing to be lost by challenging. This has happened a few times this trip. It’s a sign of bad coaching. 

Since they had a challenge left, there was nothing to lose in giving it a shot.  The Mets need to  use their ABS Challenges in high leverage situations with men in scoring position or when the game is on the line, as it was in the ninth inning today. 

For every game like today's, where the Mets failed to use their challenges, there is another game in which Mets hitters "wasted" their challenges with 2 out and nobody on in the second or third innings.  If a hitter is going to use a challenge in a low leverage situation, then they best be damn sure they are correct.

[Fman99]

Brutal game.

We were in northern Virginia for the weekend to visit family and listened to this one in its entirety on the drive home.  Not a lot to get keyed up about tho 

[Edgy MD]

There's this backwards-ass thinking that suggests "We have our four best relievers available for this game," and concludes, "We are going to let our starter pitch no more than it takes to turn the game over to those four relievers, and use all four, but none for more than a single inning."

It is madness.

Also, it is a good idea to try somebody else than Williams in your highest-leverage situations.  Adapt, adapt, adapt to the circumstances on the ground.