Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 29 Posted January 29 The two guys in the shaking hands in the Twin's logo are named Minnie and Paul.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted January 29 Posted January 29 They light up and shake hands when a Twins player hits a home run. One of my favorite parts of that park.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 I love everything about that logo. Now I love that they have names I never knew.Young me would stare at Rod Carew's hat insignia on his card, totally stumped by an interweaving T and C that could not be made to stand for "Minneapolis" or "Minnesota," and only partially for "Twins." I probably only figured out the full abbreviation after Ed Asner said it on The Mary Tyler Moore show.
Marshmallowmilkshake Old-Timey Member Posted January 29 Posted January 29 I love everything about that logo. Now I love that they have names I never knew.Young me would stare at Rod Carew's hat insignia on his card, totally stumped by an interweaving T and C that could not be made to stand for "Minneapolis" or "Minnesota," and only partially for "Twins." I probably only figured out the full abbreviation after Ed Asner said it on The Mary Tyler Moore show. I heard once that the team wanted to be known as the Twin City Twins and had the uniforms and everything ready to go, and then MLB decided that not using a city or state name was too radical and made them change to Minnesota Twins. But they kept the caps. I love the Twins ballpark.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 30 Author Posted January 30 [fimg=600]https://metsrostercentral.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/ueck.jpg[/fimg]Bob Uecker and Bob Gibson held hands in the Cardinals 1964 team photo, leading the team to fine them both and take the photo again.[YOUTUBE]aHFClLGqz8w[/YOUTUBE]
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I didn’t know Casey Stengel is so arcane and esoteric in 2026, that I can’t make a “you can look it up” joke on a picture of an Order #37 from a fast food joint on a socialmedia platform.The quip was followed with the explanation, which was then followed by “WHAT THE **** DOES THIS NONSENSE HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING!?”
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Never heard of the Minnie and Paul thing.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted February 1 Posted February 1 There was a time when you were west of Chicago you were likely a Twins or Cardinals fan
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I'm watching the Smithsonian channel Aerial America, I've seen them all , currently it is showing North Carolina and this snippet came up about the origin of the term "bullpen" Bull Durham Tobacco Ads: Many early 20th-century ballparks featured large outfield billboards for Bull Durham tobacco, often near where pitchers warmed up. Pitchers "warming up behind the bull" led to the name.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 18 Author Posted February 18 Only two pitchers who have won The Jackie R. Robinson Rookie of the Year Award have won 200 games. As yet, only one of them is in the Hall of Fame.Becoming the staff ace at a young age may not be all it's cracked up to be.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Only two pitchers who have won The Jackie R. Robinson Rookie of the Year Award have won 200 games. As yet, only one of them is in the Hall of Fame.Becoming the staff ace at a young age may not be all it's cracked up to be. More indicative of 200 wins no longer being a goal for HOF acceptance.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted February 18 Posted February 18 (edited) So... Who are they? Seaver of course, and Verlander Edited February 18 by stevejrogers
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Seaver.and I think Justin Verlander won in the AL in 2006, the year the Tigers won the pennant.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 This struck me as an interesting factoid, because while Dwight Gooden's career is frequently framed in terms of tragedy, there have been a lot of his ROY peers who would kill to have had his outcomes. Not only are there a lot of Kerry Woods and Dontrelle Willises who were outright phenoms but either couldn't stay on the mound or lost their effectiveness well before 30. Even Jon Matlack reads like a relative success story, at least by these terms.Then there were absolute disasters and nightmares like Steve Howe or Jose Fernandez.This all comes with the caveat that three guys on the list below would probably make the HoF if their careers ended today. [table][tr][th]Player[/th][th]Year[/th][th]Team[/th][th]W[/th][/tr][tr][td][MetsBlue]Tom Seaver (HoF)[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]1967[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]New York Mets[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]311[/MetsBlue][/td][/tr][tr][td]Justin Verlander (active)[/td][td]2006[/td][td]Detroit Tigers[/td][td]266[/td][/tr][tr][td][MetsBlue]Dwight Gooden[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]1984[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]New York Mets[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]194[/MetsBlue][/td][/tr][tr][td]Fernando Valenzuela[/td][td]1981[/td][td]Los Angeles Dodgers[/td][td]173[/td][/tr][tr][td]Rick Sutcliffe[/td][td]1979[/td][td]Los Angeles Dodgers[/td][td]171[/td][/tr][tr][td]Don Newcombe[/td][td]1949[/td][td]Brooklyn Dodgers[/td][td]153[/td][/tr][tr][td]Stan Bahnsen[/td][td]1968[/td][td]New York Yankees[/td][td]146[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jack Sanford[/td][td]1957[/td][td]Philadelphia Phillies[/td][td]137[/td][/tr][tr][td][MetsBlue]Jon Matlack[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]1972[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]New York Mets[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]125[/MetsBlue][/td][/tr][tr][td]Gary Peters[/td][td]1963[/td][td]Chicago White Sox[/td][td]124[/td][/tr][tr][td]Hideo Nomo[/td][td]1995[/td][td]Los Angeles Dodgers[/td][td]123[/td][/tr][tr][td][MetsBlue]Jacob deGrom (active)[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]2014[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]New York Mets[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]96[/MetsBlue][/td][/tr][tr][td]John Montefusco[/td][td]1975[/td][td]San Francisco Giants[/td][td]90[/td][/tr][tr][td]Carl Morton[/td][td]1970[/td][td]Montreal Expos[/td][td]87[/td][/tr][tr][td]Kerry Wood[/td][td]1998[/td][td]Chicago Cubs[/td][td]86[/td][/tr][tr][td]Dave Righetti[/td][td]1981[/td][td]New York Yankees[/td][td]82[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jeremy Hellickson[/td][td]2011[/td][td]Tampa Bay Rays[/td][td]76[/td][/tr][tr][td]Dontrelle Willis[/td][td]2003[/td][td]Florida Marlins[/td][td]72[/td][/tr][tr][td]Pat Zachry[/td][td]1976[/td][td]Cincinnati Reds[/td][td]69[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jason Jennings[/td][td]2002[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][td]62[/td][/tr][tr][td]Bob Grim[/td][td]1954[/td][td]New York Yankees[/td][td]61[/td][/tr][tr][td]Craig Kimbrel (active)[/td][td]2011[/td][td]Atlanta Braves[/td][td]56[/td][/tr][tr][td]Herb Score[/td][td]1955[/td][td]Cleveland Indians[/td][td]55[/td][/tr][tr][td]Todd Worrell[/td][td]1986[/td][td]St. Louis Cardinals[/td][td]50[/td][/tr][tr][td]Joe Black[/td][td]1952[/td][td]Brooklyn Dodgers[/td][td]49[/td][/tr][tr][td]Don Schwall[/td][td]1961[/td][td]Boston Red Sox[/td][td]49[/td][/tr][tr][td]Steve Howe[/td][td]1980[/td][td]Los Angeles Dodgers[/td][td]47[/td][/tr][tr][td]Harry Byrd[/td][td]1952[/td][td]Philadelphia Athletics[/td][td]46[/td][/tr][tr][td]Huston Street[/td][td]2005[/td][td]Oakland Athletics[/td][td]42[/td][/tr][tr][td]Gregg Olson[/td][td]1989[/td][td]Baltimore Orioles[/td][td]40[/td][/tr][tr][td]Shohei Ohtani (active)[/td][td]2018[/td][td]Los Angeles Angels[/td][td]39[/td][/tr][tr][td]José Fernández[/td][td]2013[/td][td]Miami Marlins[/td][td]38[/td][/tr][tr][td]Michael Fulmer (active)[/td][td]2016[/td][td]Detroit Tigers[/td][td]37[/td][/tr][tr][td]Devin Williams (active)[/td][td]2020[/td][td]Milwaukee Brewers[/td][td]31[/td][/tr][tr][td]Mark Fidrych[/td][td]1976[/td][td]Detroit Tigers[/td][td]29[/td][/tr][tr][td]Scott Williamson[/td][td]1999[/td][td]Cincinnati Reds[/td][td]28[/td][/tr][tr][td]Neftalí Feliz[/td][td]2010[/td][td]Texas Rangers[/td][td]21[/td][/tr][tr][td]Paul Skenes (active)[/td][td]2024[/td][td]Pittsburgh Pirates[/td][td]21[/td][/tr][tr][td]Luis Gil (active)[/td][td]2024[/td][td]New York Yankees[/td][td]20[/td][/tr][tr][td]Butch Metzger[/td][td]1976[/td][td]San Diego Padres[/td][td]18[/td][/tr][tr][td]Andrew Bailey[/td][td]2009[/td][td]Oakland Athletics[/td][td]16[/td][/tr][tr][td]Kazuhiro Sasaki[/td][td]2000[/td][td]Seattle Mariners[/td][td]7[/td][/tr][/table] Also, more relievers than I might have guessed of won the JRRRoY Award. And, hey! Two of them are currently in camp for the Mets! [table][tr][th]Player[/th][th]Year[/th][th]Team[/th][th]S[/th][/tr][tr][td]Craig Kimbrel (active)[/td][td]2011[/td][td]Atlanta Braves[/td][td]440[/td][/tr][tr][td]Huston Street[/td][td]2005[/td][td]Oakland Athletics[/td][td]324[/td][/tr][tr][td]Todd Worrell[/td][td]1986[/td][td]St. Louis Cardinals[/td][td]256[/td][/tr][tr][td]Dave Righetti[/td][td]1981[/td][td]New York Yankees[/td][td]252[/td][/tr][tr][td]Gregg Olson[/td][td]1989[/td][td]Baltimore Orioles[/td][td]217[/td][/tr][tr][td]Kazuhiro Sasaki[/td][td]2000[/td][td]Seattle Mariners[/td][td]129[/td][/tr][tr][td]Neftalí Feliz[/td][td]2010[/td][td]Texas Rangers[/td][td]107[/td][/tr][tr][td]Andrew Bailey[/td][td]2009[/td][td]Oakland Athletics[/td][td]95[/td][/tr][tr][td]Steve Howe[/td][td]1980[/td][td]Los Angeles Dodgers[/td][td]91[/td][/tr][tr][td]Devin Williams (active)[/td][td]2020[/td][td]Milwaukee Brewers[/td][td]86[/td][/tr][tr][td]Kerry Wood[/td][td]1998[/td][td]Chicago Cubs[/td][td]63[/td][/tr][tr][td]Scott Williamson[/td][td]1999[/td][td]Cincinnati Reds[/td][td]55[/td][/tr][tr][td]Bob Grim[/td][td]1954[/td][td]New York Yankees[/td][td]38[/td][/tr][tr][td]Joe Black[/td][td]1952[/td][td]Brooklyn Dodgers[/td][td]30[/td][/tr][tr][td]Butch Metzger[/td][td]1976[/td][td]San Diego Padres[/td][td]23[/td][/tr][tr][td]Stan Bahnsen[/td][td]1968[/td][td]New York Yankees[/td][td]20[/td][/tr][tr][td]Michael Fulmer (active)[/td][td]2016[/td][td]Detroit Tigers[/td][td]19[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jack Sanford[/td][td]1957[/td][td]Philadelphia Phillies[/td][td]11[/td][/tr][tr][td]Harry Byrd[/td][td]1952[/td][td]Philadelphia Athletics[/td][td]9[/td][/tr][tr][td]Don Newcombe[/td][td]1949[/td][td]Brooklyn Dodgers[/td][td]7[/td][/tr][tr][td]Rick Sutcliffe[/td][td]1979[/td][td]Los Angeles Dodgers[/td][td]6[/td][/tr][tr][td]Gary Peters[/td][td]1963[/td][td]Chicago White Sox[/td][td]5[/td][/tr][tr][td]John Montefusco[/td][td]1975[/td][td]San Francisco Giants[/td][td]5[/td][/tr][tr][td]Don Schwall[/td][td]1961[/td][td]Boston Red Sox[/td][td]4[/td][/tr][tr][td]Herb Score[/td][td]1955[/td][td]Cleveland Indians[/td][td]3[/td][/tr][tr][td][MetsBlue]Jon Matlack[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]1972[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]New York Mets[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]3[/MetsBlue][/td][/tr][tr][td][MetsBlue]Dwight Gooden[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]1984[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]New York Mets[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]3[/MetsBlue][/td][/tr][tr][td]Pat Zachry[/td][td]1976[/td][td]Cincinnati Reds[/td][td]3[/td][/tr][tr][td]Fernando Valenzuela[/td][td]1981[/td][td]Los Angeles Dodgers[/td][td]2[/td][/tr][tr][td][MetsBlue]Tom Seaver (HoF)[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]1967[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]New York Mets[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]1[/MetsBlue][/td][/tr][tr][td]Carl Morton[/td][td]1970[/td][td]Montreal Expos[/td][td]1[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jason Jennings[/td][td]2002[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][td]1[/td][/tr][tr][td]Mark Fidrych[/td][td]1976[/td][td]Detroit Tigers[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][tr][td]Hideo Nomo[/td][td]1995[/td][td]Los Angeles Dodgers[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][tr][td]Dontrelle Willis[/td][td]2003[/td][td]Florida Marlins[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][tr][td]Justin Verlander (active)[/td][td]2006[/td][td]Detroit Tigers[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jeremy Hellickson[/td][td]2011[/td][td]Tampa Bay Rays[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][tr][td]José Fernández[/td][td]2013[/td][td]Miami Marlins[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][tr][td][MetsBlue]Jacob deGrom (active)[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]2014[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]New York Mets[/MetsBlue][/td][td][MetsBlue]0[/MetsBlue][/td][/tr][tr][td]Luis Gil (active)[/td][td]2024[/td][td]New York Yankees[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][tr][td]Paul Skenes (active)[/td][td]2024[/td][td]Pittsburgh Pirates[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][tr][td]Shohei Ohtani (active)[/td][td]2018[/td][td]Los Angeles Angels[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][/table]
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted February 19 Posted February 19 This all comes with the caveat that three guys on the list below would probably make the HoF if their careers ended today. Verlander, Ohtani…and then deGrom in the Mets HOF?All seriousness, relievers are tricky when it comes to the HOF but I’m not so sure Kimbrel makes it.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 19 Author Posted February 19 I was thinking Verlander, Ohtani, and Kimbrel, with three highly contrastable legacies.Certain? No — but I hedged my bets with a "probably."
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Kimbrel feels like a hofer based on how unfathomably dominant he was with the braves. I feel like he’s probably had the depth of career to warrant it but relievers are tricky. I’m also positing this without looking at a single stat, so what do I know…
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 22 Author Posted February 22 Here are your big-shot relievers and a very narrow slice of their HoF credentials. [table][tr][th]Rank[/th][th]Pitcher[/th][th]Seasons[/th][th]Saves[/th][th]Notes (good and bad and other)[/th][/tr][tr][td]1[/td][td]Mariano Rivera (HoF)[/td][td]19[/td][td]652[/td][td]The swimming-pool thing[/td][/tr][tr][td]2[/td][td]Trevor Hoffman (HoF)[/td][td]18[/td][td]601[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]3[/td][td]Lee Smith (HoF)[/td][td]18[/td][td]478[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]4[/td][td]Kenley Jansen[/td][td]16[/td][td]476[/td][td]Active[/td][/tr][tr][td]5[/td][td]Craig Kimbrel[/td][td][CROSSOUT]37[/CROSSOUT] 17[/td][td]440[/td][td]Active[/td][/tr][tr][td]6[/td][td]Francisco Rodríguez[/td][td]16[/td][td]437[/td][td]Mets!, Assaulted his father-in-law at Citi Field[/td][/tr][tr][td]7[/td][td]John Franco[/td][td]21[/td][td]424[/td][td]Mets!, Captain![/td][/tr][tr][td]8[/td][td]Billy Wagner (HoF)[/td][td]16[/td][td]422[/td][td]Mets[/td][/tr][tr][td]9[/td][td]Dennis Eckersley HoF[/td][td]24[/td][td]390[/td][td]Spent a good part of his career as a starter[/td][/tr][tr][td]10[/td][td]Joe Nathan[/td][td]16[/td][td]377[/td][td]Seawolf[/td][/tr][tr][td]11[/td][td]Jonathan Papelbon[/td][td]12[/td][td]368[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]T-12[/td][td]Aroldis Chapman[/td][td]16[/td][td]367[/td][td]Active[/td][/tr][tr][td]T-12[/td][td]Jeff Reardon[/td][td]16[/td][td]367[/td][td]Mets![/td][/tr][tr][td]14[/td][td]Troy Percival[/td][td]14[/td][td]358[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]15[/td][td]Randy Myers[/td][td]14[/td][td]347[/td][td]Mets![/td][/tr][tr][td]16[/td][td]Rollie Fingers (HoF)[/td][td]17[/td][td]341[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]17[/td][td]John Wetteland[/td][td]12[/td][td]330[/td][td]I mean, he escaped conviction via a deaocked jury, but he was indicted and tried on some of the most shocking charges imaginable.[/td][/tr][tr][td]18[/td][td]Francisco Cordero[/td][td]14[/td][td]329[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]19[/td][td]Fernando Rodney[/td][td]17[/td][td]327[/td][td]Did that arrow thing.[/td][/tr][tr][td]20[/td][td]Roberto Hernández[/td][td]17[/td][td]326[/td][td]Mets![/td][/tr][tr][td] [/td][td][MetsBlue]Also[/MetsBlue][/td][td]17[/td][td]326[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]27[/td][td]Rich Gossage HoF[/td][td]22[/td][td]310[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]T-30[/td][td]Bruce Sutter HoF[/td][td]12[/td][td]300[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]45[/td][td]Hoyt Wilhelm HoF[/td][td]21[/td][td]228[/td][td]Knuckler[/td][/tr][/table]
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Wow, kimbrels been around longer than I thought. XD
Bob Alpacadaca Verified Member Posted February 23 Posted February 23 I had no idea Kenley Jansen was that high up on the all-time list.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted February 28 Posted February 28 John Hay, who served in the White House as President Lincoln's secretary and later became U. S. Secretary of State, was Joan Payson's maternal grandfather.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 Bobby Witt was a 16-year major leaguer and that's really cool. And his son turned out to be a super-talented infielder with talent that could get him into the Hall of Fame, and that's really something.But the baseball thing didn't stop there in his family. In addition to his son being the Kansas City shortstop, he and his wife had three daughters, and each one of them married a major leaguer. Nikki married James Russell (Cubs/Braves/Phillies, 2010–2016, who himself was the son of big leaguer Jeff Russell).Kianna married Zach Neal (Athletics, Dodgers, 2016–2018, 2023).Shaley married Cody Thomas (Athletics, 2022–2023, who also played quarterback for Oklahoma).
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 11 Posted March 11 But the baseball thing didn't stop there in his family. In addition to his son being the Kansas City shortstop, he and his wife had three daughters, and each one of them married a major leaguer. Despite Bobby Sr telling his girls, 'Whatever you do, don't marry a ballplayer'Junior is the only son and youngest of the brood so describes himself as being kept in line growing up by 'his four moms'.
Elian Pena St. Lucie Mets - A SS In St. Lucie's Wednesday doubleheader, the 18-year-old shortstop went 3-for-7 with a walk and his 7th and 8th doubles. He's hitting .346/.460/.481 (.941). Also 8 steals in 9 attempts. Explore Elian Pena News >
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