Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 4 Posted September 4 This is a great quiz but I cannot figure out for the life of me who #7 and #28 are. From our 1983 FA Compensation draft quiz, I recall that a rookie Jose Oquendo was protected after spending the season in the majors. Could he have hit enough to be #28?
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted September 4 Posted September 4 I accept the challenge. I'm thinking mid-late 70's, when they would have given anyone who could wear a cup without injuring themself a chance. So I'm thinking Bruce Boisclair. 75 for that elusive 28 Later
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 4 Posted September 4 I know there were three MLB work stoppages that caused games to be missed: 1981, 1994/95, and one in the 1970s that was shorter. Maybe #28’s 85 hits project out to 88 hits due to the missed games? But who that would be and which year in the 1970s I don’t know. #7 has me completely stumped. It also seems like a projection slot is missing, since Mookie and Gardenhire are both 1981 rookies but there’s only 1 slot ahead of them.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 2 hours ago, Gwreck said: This is a great quiz but I cannot figure out for the life of me who #7 and #28 are. From our 1983 FA Compensation draft quiz, I recall that a rookie Jose Oquendo was protected after spending the season in the majors. Could he have hit enough to be #28? Nineteen-year old José Oquendo was clearly up before his time. He scraped out 70 base hits in 1983, but no more. 1 hour ago, MFS62 said: I accept the challenge. I'm thinking mid-late 70's, when they would have given anyone who could wear a cup without injuring themself a chance. So I'm thinking Bruce Boisclair. 75 for that elusive 28 Later Bruce wasn't up in 1975. He debuted in 1974 and then returned in 1976, where he pounded out 82 safeties. I'm going to consider this one of those rookie seasons that FanGraphs missed and give you the points. That's 11.5 points for you — six for the guy, two for being one off in the year, 2.9 for degree of difficulty plus 0.6 for finding a rookie that Fan Graphs did not. Welcome to second place! 12 minutes ago, Gwreck said: I know there were three MLB work stoppages that caused games to be missed: 1981, 1994/95, and one in the 1970s that was shorter. Maybe #28’s 85 hits project out to 88 hits due to the missed games? But who that would be and which year in the 1970s I don’t know. #7 has me completely stumped. You know the name like you know your own. Here's a hint — he's male. # SEASON ROOKIE HITS PROJECTION 1 1981 Hubie Brooks 169.7 PROJECTION 2 2026 Carson Benge 163.2 1 2019 Pete Alonso 155 2 2003 Ty Wigginton 146 3 1963 Ron Hunt 145 4 2000 Jay Payton 142 6 2026 Carson Benge 141 5 2010 Ike Davis 138 PROJECTION 3 7 8 1977 Lee Mazzilli 134 9 1989 Gregg Jefferies 131 10 1996 Rey Ordóñez 129 11 2004 Kazuo Matsui 125 11b 2003 Jason Phillips 120 12 2011 Justin Turner 113 13 1981 Hubie Brooks 110 14 1983 Darryl Strawberry 108 15 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 107 PROJECTION 4 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 104.6 16 1977 Steve Henderson 104 PROJECTION 5 2026 AJ Ewing 99.5 17 1962 Jim Hickman 96 20B 1981 Ron Gardenhire 95 18 2013 Juan Lagares 95 19 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 93 20 2014 Travis d'Arnaud 93 21 1965 Ron Swoboda 91 22 1986 Kevin Mitchell 91 23 1981 Mookie Wilson 89 PROJECTION 6 24 2011 Lucas Duda 88 PROJECTION 7 25 1962 Rod Kanehl 87 26 1969 Wayne Garrett 87 26B 1988 Kevin Elster 87 27 1972 John Milner 86 28 29 2003 Jose Reyes 84 PROJECTION 8 2020 Andres Gimenez 83.7 29B 1996 Alex Ochoa 83 29C 2004 Mike Fitzgerald 83 29D 1976 Bruce Boisclair 82 30 2023 Francisco Alvarez 80 STANDINGS: Gwreck: 121.30 MFS62: 84.15 Johnny Lunchbucket: 79.90 seawolf17: 38.95 Frayed Knot: 23.32 whippoorwill: 16.30 Centerfield: 9.60 kcmets: 6.90 cowtipper: 2.10 ashie 62: -2.00 INCORRECT GUESSES: Benny Agbayani Brett Baty Jeromy Burnitz Victor Diaz Wilmer Flores Brian Giles Todd Hundley Butch Huskey Jeff McNeil Daniel Murphy José Oquendo Amed Rosario Omir Santos John Stearns Ryan Thompson Mike Vail David Wright Jared Young whippoorwill 1
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 4 Posted September 4 What about Carl Everett? Was he a rookie when acquired from Florida, and does his 1994 project to 87 or 89 hits?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 8 minutes ago, Gwreck said: What about Carl Everett? Was he a rookie when acquired from Florida, and does his 1994 project to 87 or 89 hits? You are digging in the right part of the yard that is your brain right now because YES! Carl Everett is your guy! Carl got 75 hits in 1995. Extrapolate that to a 162-game season, and one can easily see him piling up 88.9 bangers! That's 10 points for nailing a projected season, two for coming within one of the correct year, and 2.35 points for degree of diff! The rich get richer! # SEASON ROOKIE HITS PROJECTION 1 1981 Hubie Brooks 169.7 PROJECTION 2 2026 Carson Benge 163.2 1 2019 Pete Alonso 155 2 2003 Ty Wigginton 146 3 1963 Ron Hunt 145 4 2000 Jay Payton 142 6 2026 Carson Benge 141 5 2010 Ike Davis 138 PROJECTION 3 7 8 1977 Lee Mazzilli 134 9 1989 Gregg Jefferies 131 10 1996 Rey Ordóñez 129 11 2004 Kazuo Matsui 125 11b 2003 Jason Phillips 120 12 2011 Justin Turner 113 13 1981 Hubie Brooks 110 14 1983 Darryl Strawberry 108 15 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 107 PROJECTION 4 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 104.6 16 1977 Steve Henderson 104 PROJECTION 5 2026 AJ Ewing 99.5 17 1962 Jim Hickman 96 20B 1981 Ron Gardenhire 95 18 2013 Juan Lagares 95 19 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 93 20 2014 Travis d'Arnaud 93 21 1965 Ron Swoboda 91 22 1986 Kevin Mitchell 91 23 1981 Mookie Wilson 89 PROJECTION 6 1995 Carl Everett 🦕🦖 88.9 24 2011 Lucas Duda 88 PROJECTION 7 25 1962 Rod Kanehl 87 26 1969 Wayne Garrett 87 26B 1988 Kevin Elster 87 27 1972 John Milner 86 28 29 2003 Jose Reyes 84 PROJECTION 8 2020 Andres Gimenez 83.7 29B 1996 Alex Ochoa 83 29C 2004 Mike Fitzgerald 83 29D 1976 Bruce Boisclair 82 30 2023 Francisco Alvarez 80 STANDINGS: Gwreck: 135.65 MFS62: 84.15 Johnny Lunchbucket: 79.90 seawolf17: 38.95 Frayed Knot: 23.32 whippoorwill: 16.30 Centerfield: 9.60 kcmets: 6.90 cowtipper: 2.10 ashie 62: -2.00 INCORRECT GUESSES: Benny Agbayani Brett Baty Jeromy Burnitz Victor Diaz Wilmer Flores Brian Giles Todd Hundley Butch Huskey Jeff McNeil Daniel Murphy José Oquendo Amed Rosario Omir Santos John Stearns Ryan Thompson Mike Vail David Wright Jared Young
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted September 4 Posted September 4 Since we have AJ Ewing as projected, how about him currently for that #28 spot? We did the same for Benge. That's my pick. Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 52 minutes ago, MFS62 said: Since we have AJ Ewing as projected, how about him currently for that #28 spot? We did the same for Benge. That's my pick. Later Since the dawn of this kwiz, AJ Ewing has moved into a tie with John Milner with 86 hits in a rookie season, so yes, that is who we were looking for. You didn't mention the year, but since AJ has only one year to mention, we'll give you the year points, and you've added 11.8 points to your score. AJ has the 100-hit plateau within reach this season, and since that projection is based on a season in which he didn't debut until May 12, there's a good chance he gets it. # SEASON ROOKIE HITS PROJECTION 1 1981 Hubie Brooks 169.7 PROJECTION 2 2026 Carson Benge 163.2 1 2019 Pete Alonso 155 2 2003 Ty Wigginton 146 3 1963 Ron Hunt 145 4 2000 Jay Payton 142 6 2026 Carson Benge 141 5 2010 Ike Davis 138 PROJECTION 3 7 8 1977 Lee Mazzilli 134 9 1989 Gregg Jefferies 131 10 1996 Rey Ordóñez 129 11 2004 Kazuo Matsui 125 11b 2003 Jason Phillips 120 12 2011 Justin Turner 113 13 1981 Hubie Brooks 110 14 1983 Darryl Strawberry 108 15 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 107 PROJECTION 4 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 104.6 16 1977 Steve Henderson 104 PROJECTION 5 2026 AJ Ewing 99.5 17 1962 Jim Hickman 96 20B 1981 Ron Gardenhire 95 18 2013 Juan Lagares 95 19 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 93 20 2014 Travis d'Arnaud 93 21 1965 Ron Swoboda 91 22 1986 Kevin Mitchell 91 PROJECTION 6 23 1981 Mookie Wilson 89 PROJECTION 7 1995 Carl Everett 88.9 24 2011 Lucas Duda 88 25 1962 Rod Kanehl 87 26 1969 Wayne Garrett 87 26B 1988 Kevin Elster 87 27 1972 John Milner 86 28 2026 AJ Ewing 86 29 2003 Jose Reyes 84 PROJECTION 8 2020 Andres Gimenez 83.7 29B 1996 Alex Ochoa 83 29C 2004 Mike Fitzgerald 83 29D 1976 Bruce Boisclair 82 30 2023 Francisco Alvarez 80 STANDINGS: Gwreck: 135.65 MFS62: 95.95 Johnny Lunchbucket: 79.90 seawolf17: 38.95 Frayed Knot: 23.32 whippoorwill: 16.30 Centerfield: 9.60 kcmets: 6.90 cowtipper: 2.10 ashie 62: -2.00 INCORRECT GUESSES: Benny Agbayani Brett Baty Jeromy Burnitz Victor Diaz Wilmer Flores Brian Giles Todd Hundley Butch Huskey Jeff McNeil Daniel Murphy José Oquendo Amed Rosario Omir Santos John Stearns Ryan Thompson Mike Vail David Wright Jared Young
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 5 Posted September 5 Is projection 6 Milner then? The work stoppage was in 1972?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 5 Author Posted September 5 17 minutes ago, Gwreck said: Is projection 6 Milner then? The work stoppage was in 1972? Exactly, the 1972 strike not only robbed the Mets of Gil Hodges, but robbed John Milner of his chance to produce the 89.3 hits he was destined for. But, you earn 15.25 points and reach the 150-point total you were destined for. # SEASON ROOKIE HITS PROJECTION 1 1981 Hubie Brooks 169.7 PROJECTION 2 2026 Carson Benge 163.2 1 2019 Pete Alonso 155 2 2003 Ty Wigginton 146 3 1963 Ron Hunt 145 4 2000 Jay Payton 142 6 2026 Carson Benge 141 5 2010 Ike Davis 138 PROJECTION 3 7 8 1977 Lee Mazzilli 134 9 1989 Gregg Jefferies 131 10 1996 Rey Ordóñez 129 11 2004 Kazuo Matsui 125 11b 2003 Jason Phillips 120 12 2011 Justin Turner 113 13 1981 Hubie Brooks 110 14 1983 Darryl Strawberry 108 15 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 107 PROJECTION 4 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 104.6 16 1977 Steve Henderson 104 PROJECTION 5 2026 AJ Ewing 99.5 17 1962 Jim Hickman 96 20B 1981 Ron Gardenhire 95 18 2013 Juan Lagares 95 19 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 93 20 2014 Travis d'Arnaud 93 21 1965 Ron Swoboda 91 22 1986 Kevin Mitchell 91 PROJECTION 6 1972 John Milner 89.3 23 1981 Mookie Wilson 89 PROJECTION 7 1995 Carl Everett 88.9 24 2011 Lucas Duda 88 25 1962 Rod Kanehl 87 26 1969 Wayne Garrett 87 26B 1988 Kevin Elster 87 27 1972 John Milner 86 28 2026 AJ Ewing 86 29 2003 Jose Reyes 84 PROJECTION 8 2020 Andres Gimenez 83.7 29B 1996 Alex Ochoa 83 29C 2004 Mike Fitzgerald 83 29D 1976 Bruce Boisclair 82 30 2023 Francisco Alvarez 80 STANDINGS: Gwreck: 150.90 MFS62: 95.95 Johnny Lunchbucket: 79.90 seawolf17: 38.95 Frayed Knot: 23.32 whippoorwill: 16.30 Centerfield: 9.60 kcmets: 6.90 cowtipper: 2.10 ashie 62: -2.00 INCORRECT GUESSES: Benny Agbayani Brett Baty Jeromy Burnitz Victor Diaz Wilmer Flores Brian Giles Todd Hundley Butch Huskey Jeff McNeil Daniel Murphy José Oquendo Amed Rosario Omir Santos John Stearns Ryan Thompson Mike Vail David Wright Jared Young
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 5 Posted September 5 So projection 3 is Mookie in 1981, then. But Gardenhire should also have a projection for that year? Or was one of them not called up until the second half of the year? This is where I tap out. I vote that last answer should be worth 300 points.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 5 Author Posted September 5 19 minutes ago, Gwreck said: So projection 3 is Mookie in 1981, then. But Gardenhire should also have a projection for that year? Or was one of them not called up until the second half of the year? This is where I tap out. I vote that last answer should be worth 300 points. Points for Mookie, but even with a projection, Gardy falls short of the list. Such is the life for Gardenhose. I can hear that last guy's heart a-breakin'. I can hear it. # SEASON ROOKIE HITS PROJECTION 1 1981 Hubie Brooks 169.7 PROJECTION 2 2026 Carson Benge 163.2 1 2019 Pete Alonso 155 2 2003 Ty Wigginton 146 3 1963 Ron Hunt 145 4 2000 Jay Payton 142 6 2026 Carson Benge 141 5 2010 Ike Davis 138 PROJECTION 3 1981 Mookie Wilson 137.3 7 8 1977 Lee Mazzilli 134 9 1989 Gregg Jefferies 131 10 1996 Rey Ordóñez 129 11 2004 Kazuo Matsui 125 11b 2003 Jason Phillips 120 12 2011 Justin Turner 113 13 1981 Hubie Brooks 110 14 1983 Darryl Strawberry 108 15 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 107 PROJECTION 4 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 104.6 16 1977 Steve Henderson 104 PROJECTION 5 2026 AJ Ewing 99.5 17 1962 Jim Hickman 96 20B 1981 Ron Gardenhire 95 18 2013 Juan Lagares 95 19 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 93 20 2014 Travis d'Arnaud 93 21 1965 Ron Swoboda 91 22 1986 Kevin Mitchell 91 PROJECTION 6 1972 John Milner 89.3 23 1981 Mookie Wilson 89 PROJECTION 7 1995 Carl Everett 88.9 24 2011 Lucas Duda 88 25 1962 Rod Kanehl 87 26 1969 Wayne Garrett 87 26B 1988 Kevin Elster 87 27 1972 John Milner 86 28 2026 AJ Ewing 86 29 2003 Jose Reyes 84 PROJECTION 8 2020 Andres Gimenez 83.7 29B 1996 Alex Ochoa 83 29C 2004 Mike Fitzgerald 83 29D 1976 Bruce Boisclair 82 30 2023 Francisco Alvarez 80 STANDINGS: Gwreck: 164.55 MFS62: 95.95 Johnny Lunchbucket: 79.90 seawolf17: 38.95 Frayed Knot: 23.32 whippoorwill: 16.30 Centerfield: 9.60 kcmets: 6.90 cowtipper: 2.10 ashie 62: -2.00 INCORRECT GUESSES: Benny Agbayani Brett Baty Jeromy Burnitz Victor Diaz Wilmer Flores Brian Giles Todd Hundley Butch Huskey Jeff McNeil Daniel Murphy José Oquendo Amed Rosario Omir Santos John Stearns Ryan Thompson Mike Vail David Wright Jared Young
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 5 Author Posted September 5 23 minutes ago, whippoorwill said: Great quiz! Please do us the favor of naming the last guy, ww! whippoorwill 1
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 5 Posted September 5 42 minutes ago, Edgy MD said: but even with a projection, Gardy falls short of the list. Such is the life for Gardenhose. The chart has 95 hits for Gardenhire in 1981 — that’s the actual total, right? So the projection would have to be higher unless he was called up on the first day of the second half of that season?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 5 Author Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, Gwreck said: The chart has 95 hits for Gardenhire in 1981 — that’s the actual total, right? So the projection would have to be higher unless he was called up on the first day of the second half of that season? The chart is confused in two ways. Gardy (a) had 92 hits, not 95, and (b) did it in 1982, not 1981. Even with all the projections in the world, his 1981 was irredeemable. Sorry for the confusion. Minus two points for me!! FOUR!
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 5 Posted September 5 Ah it all makes sense now. Some points off for me for not knowing what year Gardenhire was a rookie. Especially after he also starred in my most recent quiz.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 5 Author Posted September 5 # SEASON ROOKIE HITS PROJECTION 1 1981 Hubie Brooks 169.7 PROJECTION 2 2026 Carson Benge 163.2 1 2019 Pete Alonso 155 2 2003 Ty Wigginton 146 3 1963 Ron Hunt 145 4 2000 Jay Payton 142 6 2026 Carson Benge 141 5 2010 Ike Davis 138 PROJECTION 3 1981 Mookie Wilson 137.3 7 8 1977 Lee Mazzilli 134 9 1989 Gregg Jefferies 131 10 1996 Rey Ordóñez 129 11 2004 Kazuo Matsui 125 11b 2003 Jason Phillips 120 12 2011 Justin Turner 113 13 1981 Hubie Brooks 110 14 1983 Darryl Strawberry 108 15 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 107 PROJECTION 4 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 104.6 16 1977 Steve Henderson 104 PROJECTION 5 2026 AJ Ewing 99.5 17 1962 Jim Hickman 96 18 2013 Juan Lagares 95 19 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 93 20 2014 Travis d'Arnaud 93 20B 1982 Ron Gardenhire🌱🌱 92 21 1965 Ron Swoboda 91 22 1986 Kevin Mitchell 91 PROJECTION 6 1972 John Milner 89.3 23 1981 Mookie Wilson 89 PROJECTION 7 1995 Carl Everett🦕🦖 88.9 24 2011 Lucas Duda 88 25 1962 Rod Kanehl 87 26 1969 Wayne Garrett 87 26B 1988 Kevin Elster 87 27 1972 John Milner 86 28 2026 AJ Ewing 86 29 2003 Jose Reyes 84 PROJECTION 8 2020 Andres Gimenez 83.7 29B 1996 Alex Ochoa 83 29C 2004 Mike Fitzgerald 83 29D 1976 Bruce Boisclair 82 30 2023 Francisco Alvarez 80
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted September 5 Posted September 5 Cleon in 1966. Holy moley, I don't know how we all forgot him.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted September 5 Posted September 5 Cleon used up his rookie eligibility before he would have made this list. later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 5 Author Posted September 5 18 minutes ago, seawolf17 said: Cleon in 1966. Holy moley, I don't know how we all forgot him. Because you were all thinking about YOURSELVES!! Thanks everybody for playing! Congratulations to Gwreck for his runaway victory, and to seawolf17 for closing the books. whippoorwill 1
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted September 5 Posted September 5 I thought about him. But there were some quirky first year/ free agent rules in those years(that's how they lost Paul Blair). I thought Cleon, while not having the requisite at bats , was required to spend time on the major league roster that exceeded the limit, and that disqualified him. Looks like I over thought it. Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted 13 hours ago Author Posted 13 hours ago A mid-game update, as Benge's RBI single in the top of the fifth has put him ahead of Ty Wigginton into sole possession of second place. He has 14 1/2 games to catch Alonso and maybe make a run at Projected Hubie. # SEASON ROOKIE HITS PROJECTION 1 1981 Hubie Brooks 169.7 PROJECTION 2 2026 Carson Benge 161.5 1 2019 Pete Alonso 155 2 2026 Carson Benge 147 3 2003 Ty Wigginton 146 4 1963 Ron Hunt 145 5 2000 Jay Payton 142 6 2010 Ike Davis 138 PROJECTION 3 1981 Mookie Wilson 137.3 7 1966 Cleon Jones 136 8 1977 Lee Mazzilli 134 9 1989 Gregg Jefferies 131 10 1996 Rey Ordóñez 129 11 2004 Kazuo Matsui 125 12 2003 Jason Phillips 120 13 2011 Justin Turner 113 14 1981 Hubie Brooks 110 15 1983 Darryl Strawberry 108 PROJECTION 4 2026 AJ Ewing 107.6 16 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 107 PROJECTION 5 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 104.6 17 1977 Steve Henderson 104 18 2026 AJ Ewing 98 19 1962 Jim Hickman 96 20 2013 Juan Lagares 95 T21 1995 Edgardo Alfonzo 93 T21 2014 Travis d'Arnaud 93 23 1982 Ron Gardenhire 92 T24 1965 Ron Swoboda 91 T24 1986 Kevin Mitchell 91 PROJECTION 6 1972 John Milner 89.3 26 1981 Mookie Wilson 89 PROJECTION 7 1995 Carl Everett 88.9 27 2011 Lucas Duda 88 T28 1962 Rod Kanehl 87 T28 1969 Wayne Garrett 87 T28 1988 Kevin Elster 87 29 1972 John Milner 86 30 2003 Jose Reyes 84 PROJECTION 8 2020 Andres Gimenez 83.7 T31 1996 Alex Ochoa 83 T31 2004 Mike Fitzgerald 83 33 1976 Bruce Boisclair 82 34 2023 Francisco Alvarez 80
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