Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 And it's not some small sample size either.His OPS by Month:April 2025: .575September 2024: .611August 2024: .684July 2024: .607June 2024: 1.004May 2024: .751April 2024: .708His last seven months of ABs. 1 great month. One good month. 5 shitty months. He's only 32 years old. I hope that guy is not shot.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 It isn't just at bat. The fact that they need a centerfielder and use McNeil there instead of Nimmo tells me that they feel the area he can cover seems to be shrinking faster than a dollar store t-shirt. (Just a guess. I don't have the zone rating stats)I had thought Gilbert might be coming along at AAA, but he didn't have a good day with the bat in yesterday's DH. I hope that was just a hiccup and Gilbert will be up here soon.Later
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 If he'd rid himself of the whiskers I bet his bat would wake up.You can't get analysis like this elsewhere, you're welcome in advance.
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Always been an underachiever, but he's not a letdown of a first round draft pick like Conforto was, because he was never really expected to be a savior. He's been in the league 10 years and has barely averaged 100 games and not even 350 ABs per year. He was basically a two-year wonder in 2022 and 2023, but these past couple seasons, so far, have proven his ability to handle full-time play is not long-term. And they have him through 2030.
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 =Cowtipper post_id=191002 time=1745864775 user_id=166]And they have him through 2030.
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Not to go off topic, but I just noticed that in the past ten years, exactly one of the Mets first round picks has done anything meaningful for the club and even he's been wishy-washy: David Peterson.The others? Carson BengeColin HouckKevin ParadaJett WilliamsKumar RockerPete Crow-Armstrong Brett BatyJarred KelenicJustin DunnAnthony Kay Rocker never signed. Crow-Armstrong, Kelenic, Dunn and Kay were shipped away before ever playing for NY (though Kay eventually found his way back...for three games). Baty is a bust and the rest have yet to suit up for NY (and the way Parada and Houck have been playing, they might never do so). Anyway, back to Nimmo.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 And it's not some small sample size either.His OPS by Month:April 2025: .575September 2024: .611August 2024: .684July 2024: .607June 2024: 1.004May 2024: .751April 2024: .708His last seven months of ABs. 1 great month. One good month. 5 shitty months. He's only 32 years old. I hope that guy is not shot.I've been wondering about this myself lately. I have no idea if this represents a permanent decline in Nimmo's offense, but he's definitely been scuffling as of late.Two points:He's not as valuable in LF as in CF. LF is not nearly as demanding a position defensively as CF, and so more offense is expected from a leftfielder. And Nimmo is not bringing that "LF offensive punch".And I'm convinced that if David Stearns were running things back then, there's no way the Mets give Nimmo the eight-year contract Nimmo eventually received.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 I optimistically drafted him for my fantasy team for several years only to cut him loose when the Ks piled up. This year my husband drafted him and he heard me laughing from across the hall.I like the guy; how could you not? but geez. Yeah I commented on the beard over the weekend too.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 It seems like his whole approach has gone sideways after moving out of the leadoff spot. He used to be an incredibly patient hitter and has seemingly abandoned that approach after he was moved elsewhere in the order.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Always been an underachiever,Tough to hang a label of "underachiever" on a guy who has put up above average offense in every season (save for his partial rookie one) or "two year wonder" on a guy with 32% better offense (by OPS+) over six consecutive season span, but we'll put that aside for now because, speaking of partial seasons, this "has barely averaged 100 games and not even 350 ABs per year" is absurdly misleading and, I suspect, intentionally so so as to fit a predetermined conclusion. He only has "ten seasons" if one includes the rookie year when he wasn't called up until late July, the Covid season when every player in the league 'Missed' 100 games, and this current season which is basically a month old and average those in and treat them as fully played seasons. And then we site ABs rather than PAs so the numbers look even smaller due to his normally high walk rates.Take '16, '20 and '25 out of the mix and he averages 118 G/year and just shy of 500 PAs, not "barely 100 and /350"The most recent seasons where he Actually missed games were four and six years ago, and he's appeared in 150+ each of the last three.Debate his future projections all you want, but don't do so while distorting the past.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Nimmo has a lot of wear and tear on his legs and baseball city miles on everything elseThis is his 15th year in the organization
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 =ashie62 post_id=191047 time=1745870499 user_id=90]Nimmo has a lot of wear and tear on his legs and baseball city miles on everything elseThis is his 15th year in the organization
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Okay excluding his rookie season and 2020, he still has averaged just 118 games and 411 ABs per season.Still an underachiever.Achievers are there. You can't achieve if you're not there for nearly 1/3 of the season.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Author Posted April 28, 2025 He reminds me a lot of Curtis Granderson.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 He ain't scuffling today.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 This thread should be mentally put on hold, to be revisited in a few months.Later
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Centerfield for for forum oligarch!
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 I think that Nimmo read this thread before today's game and then got motivated.
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 =Gwreck post_id=191091 time=1745880834 user_id=56]Nimmo has a 3.200 OPS today.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 =Cowtipper post_id=191094 time=1745882064 user_id=166]=Gwreck post_id=191091 time=1745880834 user_id=56]Nimmo has a 3.200 OPS today.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Okay excluding his rookie season and 2020, he still has averaged just 118 games and 411 ABs per season.Yes, I know, I'm the one who gave those stats, except I cited PA rather than AB because it's a more accurate appraisal. I also noted that the majority of that missed time was from two seasons four and six years ago while you continue to imply that chunks of missed time from Nimmo is a current and ongoing issue despite him appearing in 89% of games since 2020."Still an underachiever." -- An underachiever who's provided OPS+ of 128 for his career as a whole and in every single season since becoming a regular. Got it."Achievers are there. You can't achieve if you're not there for nearly 1/3 of the season." -- 118 G/yr is 3/4 of a season played not "nearly 1/3" missed, and virtually no missed time in the most recent three complete seasons.If you want to have a discussion about Nimmo's past, present, and future, have an honest one. You're not even trying.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 =Cowtipper post_id=191002 time=1745864775 user_id=166][Nimmo] was basically a two-year wonder in 2022 and 2023....
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 (edited) Frayed Knot wrote:=Cowtipper post_id=191050 time=1745870938 user_id=166]Okay excluding his rookie season and 2020, he still has averaged just 118 games and 411 ABs per season.Yes, I know, I'm the one who gave those stats, except I cited PA rather than AB because it's a more accurate appraisal. Edited April 28, 2025 by Guest
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 =batmagadanleadoff post_id=191103 time=1745891738 user_id=68]=Cowtipper post_id=191002 time=1745864775 user_id=166][Nimmo] was basically a two-year wonder in 2022 and 2023....
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 =Cowtipper post_id=191104 time=1745892479 user_id=166]Oh yeah I didn't actually read your post.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2025 Posted April 29, 2025 =metirish post_id=191001 time=1745864688 user_id=72]I never rated him 😂
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