Shohei Ohtani is Terrific, But ...

[bmfc1]

I was hoping for Toronto or anyone else in the American League.

[Methead]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: 10 yrs 700 million with Dodgers

Good sweet holy christ on a taco

[ashie62]

700 million



WOW

[metirish]

It's absolutely nuts , glad it's not the Mets in for that

[stevejrogers]

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It's absolutely nuts , glad it's not the Mets in for that

[Chad ochoseis]

Stupid money, unless the deferrals are so far down the road that the $700M is more like $400M in today's dollars, which is entirely possible.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

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It's absolutely nuts , glad it's not the Mets in for that

[metirish]

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It's absolutely nuts , glad it's not the Mets in for that

[Edgy MD]

"Now we're ready to talk." — Pete Alonso

[The Hot Corner]

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It's absolutely nuts , glad it's not the Mets in for that

[The Hot Corner]

Edgy MD wrote: "Now we're ready to talk." — Pete Alonso

Has anyone seen Pete pitch? There is no player worth that kind of money, not even Ohtani.

[Edgy MD]

Indeed he isn't. But the bar at the top of the market has been raised significantly. Good agents tend to wait until the guy at the top of the market has signed before encouraging their guys to move.



In baseball, you're worth what the market says you're worth (apart from all the weird market manipulations they're still allowed to do).

[Frayed Knot]

Biggest question is how good a pitcher is he going to be post-surgery. Not that he can't make it on

hitting alone, but the reason the pile of cash is as high as it is is for his proven ability to do both.

[Lefty Specialist]

Woof. That's a lot of sushi.



An incredible sunk cost for the Dodgers, deferred payments or no.

[metirish]

Frayed Knot wrote: Biggest question is how good a pitcher is he going to be post-surgery. Not that he can't make it on hitting alone, but the reason the pile of cash is as high as it is is for his proven ability to do both.

This is a huge question, wow , curious to see how it all turns out

[metirish]

Just some tidying up here , Shohei first on this

[metirish]

Oh well

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ohtani's new salary, accounting for inflation and adjusted for present value, comes out to about $25M a year (AAV). Granted, it's for 10 years. Dodger fans should enjoy watching this unicorn play every day before them. But as for the Dodgers' WS chances, baseball post-season is a stupid shit-show. My favorite part is when, inevitably, the top seeds lose after just one round and then all the ninnies have conniptions about "How could that happen? It's the playoffs! The playoffs!!!" They want the six seeds to participate in the playoffs, but then have heart attacks when the six-seeds actually win a series. "How could this happen?"

[batmagadanleadoff]

https://twitter.com/WillSammon/status/1733640177686401252 Oh well

That's probably because Ohtani never wanted to play for the Mets to begin with. Probably a combination of Ohtani wanting to stay on the west coast and perceiving the Mets as way less competitive than the Dodgers.

[Chad ochoseis]

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Ohtani's new salary, accounting for inflation and adjusted for present value, comes out to about $25M a year (AAV).

[batmagadanleadoff]

Chad ochoseis wrote: Ohtani's new salary, accounting for inflation and adjusted for present value, comes out to about $25M a year (AAV). Have the details on the timing of the deferred payments been released?

I don't think so. But MLB knows the details. So this from The Athletic: "Under the league's calculations, the deferrals lower [Ohtani's] average annual value from $30.4 million to $25.5 million."

[metirish]

Just saw on The Athletic, has not had physical yet, Dodgers had no comment on deal

[stevejrogers]

Oh good, now knee jerk “it's not my money” stans and those pissed that Cohen isn't acting like 1980s George Steinbrenner have hope for a reverse Correa!

[smg58]

You can't count on any pitching in the second half of this deal, and even elite-hitting DHs have limited value. I love Shohei, but this was quite a bit farther than I would have willingly gone.

[Edgy MD]

Shohei Ohtani is terrific, but ... .

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ohtani's new salary, accounting for inflation and adjusted for present value, comes out to about $25M a year (AAV). Granted, it's for 10 years. Dodger fans should enjoy watching this unicorn play every day before them. But as for the Dodgers' WS chances, baseball post-season is a stupid shit-show. My favorite part is when, inevitably, the top seeds lose after just one round and then all the ninnies have conniptions about "How could that happen? It's the playoffs! The playoffs!!!" They want the six seeds to participate in the playoffs, but then have heart attacks when the six-seeds actually win a series. "How could this happen?"

Last night on the Baseball network, during its all-night Ohtani-thon coverage, hall of fame broadcaster Bob Costas was asked if he'd take the Dodgers or the rest of the field in next year's post-season (the question obviously assumes the Dodges will qualify). Costas said that he'd take the rest of the field. He said he'd take the rest of the field against any team. Even against a team that was a combination of the 1927 Yankees, the Gas House Gang, the Mariners squad that won 116 regular season games and several other all-time great teams for the ages. He said that the post-season is too much of a gauntlet for any team to have an edge.



I agree. But it seems as if baseball is headed for a post-season, some day, where every single team qualifies.

[ashie62]

I guess you could extend Francisco Alvarez



For say 300 million for 8 years



Pete would get 400 million for 10



Tee hee

[Frayed Knot]

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You can't count on any pitching in the second half of this deal ...

[A Boy Named Seo]

I just got a buzz on my phone stating that Shohei will earn a $2M salary EACH YEAR of his contract with the Dodgers, deferring the other $68M annually. Interest-free payments on the balance start in 2034.



This is fucking incredible to me. He will count against the cap this year the same as our new relief pitcher, Jorge Lopez. LOL

[metirish]

What a joke , wow