Max Scherzer's Suspension Deserves Its Own Thread

[G-Fafif]

[metirish]

Fuck Manfred and the horse he rode in on

[Edgy MD]

Not a whole lot of denial of the contentions in there.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Mets Projected 2023 Opening Day Pitching Rotation:



Verlander (IL)

Scherzer (Suspended)

Senga

Quintana (IL)

Carrasco (IL)



Present Rotation (Not good enough to compete with Braves):

Senga

Peterson

Megill

Butto?

???????

[nymr83]

"I thought I was going get in front of a neutral arbitrator, but I wasn't. It was going to be through MLB. Given that process, I wasn't going to come out on top"

"I thought I was going to get in front of a neutral judge, but this guy was appointed by Obama." -Future convicted Felon Donald J. Trump



that is a lame answer by Scherzer. If you didn't appeal the suspension, its because you were guilty.

[bmfc1]

"I thought I was going get in front of a neutral arbitrator, but I wasn't. It was going to be through MLB. Given that process, I wasn't going to come out on top" "I thought I was going to get in front of a neutral judge, but this guy was appointed by Obama." -Future convicted Felon Donald J. Trump that is a lame answer by Scherzer. If you didn't appeal the suspension, its because you were guilty.

I respectfully disagree with you. He's appealing a decision to the same party that made the decision. It's not fair but Max was part of the MLBPA negotiating team and this could have been fixed in the latest agreement.

[nymr83]

If he was still with the Nationals we'd all be cheering him getting suspended and labelling him a cheater

[Edgy MD]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=123020 time=1682042357 user_id=68]
Present Rotation (Not good enough to compete with Braves):

Senga

Peterson

Megill

Butto?

???????

[ashie62]

Verlander is becoming an extended period

[Edgy MD]

Is that a menstrual joke?

[ashie62]

Touchee!



I am hopeful Carrasco keeps his stint short



In the meantime Butto has some talent and we'll see what Joey Lucheezy can do

[Lefty Specialist]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=123020 time=1682042357 user_id=68]
Mets Projected 2023 Opening Day Pitching Rotation:



Verlander (IL)

Scherzer (Suspended)

Senga

Quintana (IL)

Carrasco (IL)



Present Rotation (Not good enough to compete with Braves):

Senga

Peterson

Megill

Butto?

???????

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

=nymr83 post_id=123042 time=1682046576 user_id=54]
If he was still with the Nationals we'd all be cheering him getting suspended and labelling him a cheater

[ashie62]

I'd be ok with this suspension if Max had not totally sucked as a Met to date

[Frayed Knot]

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If he was still with the Nationals we'd all be cheering him getting suspended and labelling him a cheater

[Edgy MD]

"I swear on my kids' lives, I'm not using anything else. This is sweat and rosin. Sweat and rosin."



Well, that's a firmer denial.

[nymr83]

A denial of what though? it seems that by his own admission he used rosin other than the rosin bag behind the mound which i'm hearing is the only rosin they are allowed to use? is there stickier rosin? i'm not a rosin expert.

[Edgy MD]

Well, that may be irrelevant to his protestations, or it may be wiggle room that allows him to sleep at night.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd be ok with this suspension if Max had not totally sucked as a Met to date

11-5 in 2022 with a 2.29 ERA. That's not "totally sucking".



By my math, he'll be eligible to return on April 30. Does that sound right?

[Edgy MD]

Ashie's on something of a roll.



I reflect upon Scherzer's "sweat and rosin" quote above. What he isn't saying is whether he's using MLB's certified rosin.



Or MLB's certified sweat, for that matter.

[Bob Alpacadaca]

He seems to be one of those guys who is so competitive that he finds the loopholes and looks for any edge. I see the point that "excessive" is subjective, and that Phil Cuzzi's standard might be different than that of other umpires. I also get that if MLB is looking to make a statement, calling foul on someone of Max's stature has more impact than than bouncing a reliever on the AAA shuttle.

[metirish]

During the long conversation last night the ESPN booth had David Cone said a lot of things, one being that what better way for MLB to make a point than with someone like Max

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: "I swear on my kids' lives, I'm not using anything else. This is sweat and rosin. Sweat and rosin." Well, that's a firmer denial.

There was a caller on either WFAN or ESPN radio who said he had mentioned that to a Psychologist.

The Psychologist told him that is one of the text book things liars say.

I'm not sure how credible this was, but interesting.



Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

I've never been sure what it means to "swear on someone's life". Are they saying that if they're lying, their loved one will immediately be struck by lightning?

[Edgy MD]

More likely it means that you are willing to allow them killed if you are found to be lying.



It's supposed to come across as a bold statement, but on reflection, it tends to come up short on it's intent for three reasons:

2. The universe tends not to collect if you are found to be lying.


4. Other humans also tend to spare your loved ones' lives. It's just not worth it. I'd rather Max Scherzer give me a cool thousand dollars if I can establish that he's lying. That's worth more to me than the right to murder his children. Why would that appeal to me?


6. While our children's lives are precious to most anybody, they are far more precious to the children themselves. If you're going to put skin in the game, it's far more meaningful to me if put your own.

But whatever.

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: [*] I'd rather Max Scherzer give me a cool thousand dollars if I can establish that he's lying. That's worth more to me than the right to murder his children.

Or $5 million like the pillow guy now has to pony up.

Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

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The Psychologist told him that is one of the text book things liars say.

I'm not sure how credible this was, but interesting.

[Edgy MD]

I like local colloquial versions.



"I swear on my mother's eyes!"



"I swear on my left nut!"



"I swear on a stack o' Bibles!"

[batmagadanleadoff]

It's a neat way to eliminate your enemies and rivals, if it works. Just tell somebody an awful, reprehensible but obvious lie and when they call you on the lie, swear on your enemies' lives that you were telling the truth.

[kcmets]

Always found, "I swear on my mother's grave!" kinda amusing. Really going

way out on a limb to a box of decaying worm-eatin' dead carcass there.



"But that aside, let me say that I swear, on the souls of my grandchildren,

that I will not be the one who will break the peace we have made here today."