What Happens in Vegas: A’s in Vegas

[ashie62]

My younger brother has been a true A's fan since Charley O and is threatening to disown them after they move



I hope he relents



We had a great family rivalry during the 73 series

[Frayed Knot]

Were Oakland fans outraged when the A's left Kansas City?



A move to Vegas will make the Athletics the first MLB franchise to call four different cities home.

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: Were Oakland fans outraged when the A's left Kansas City?

Did any Philadelphia A's fans care when they left for Kansas City as much as New York and Brooklyn fans felt when their teams left for the West Coast?

I wonder.

But they're Philadelphians, so I don't feel for them.



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[Edgy MD]

Yes, some did.

[batmagadanleadoff]

What's the difference even if there is outrage? What can outraged Oakland fans do? Boycott the remaining A's games? Threaten to burn down the city? Vote out some pols? That's never worked before. (I mean the last suggestion.)

[Frayed Knot]

Frayed Knot wrote: A move to Vegas will make the Athletics the first MLB franchise to call four different cities home.

Was disappointed to learn that LV NV is on Pacific rather than Mountain time so this move Won't also allow them to complete the first ever four time zone Bingo.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Maybe they can consider Cheyenne, Wyoming instead.

[Edgy MD]

It still allows for a Mountain-ish road swing of three inland western cities of Denver, Arizona, and Las Vegas.



It would leave five West Coast franchises for the time being.

[vtmet7]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=123037 time=1682045329 user_id=119]
I totally missed that you were kidding! Oops.

[DocTee]

I lived in the Bay Area for fifteen years and went to a lot of games there. It really is a horrible stadium. Even then they were hurting for attendance, and the teams were good. On Wednesday afternoons they had "dollar days" where you could get tickets for a buck each---my buddy and I would buy five each and spread out with our toddlers and all their shit. At least when the Giants played in Candlestick there was comparative parity--both parks sucked. But when the Giants moved to that gorgeous stadium in the city while the A's rotted in the Coliseum there was a real awakening among the fanbase that they just didn't matter to ownership, or the city, or MLB. I hope they retain the green and gold when they move to Vegas and not trade it for something shiny and metallic.

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, they're the only green uni team in MLB, no one else has it even as a secondary color, so they should hold on to that uniqueness. There are already too many reds and blues.

Although, seeing as how it'll be Vegas, maybe they'll darken it somewhat so that it resembles money green.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

It seems like they'd sooner change Athletics to Aces

[kcmets]

That would really chew root (of all evil).

[Frayed Knot]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: It seems like they'd sooner change Athletics to Aces

Which is already the WNBA team's name.

How original of them.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=DocTee post_id=123156 time=1682166109 user_id=85]But when the Giants moved to that gorgeous stadium in the city while the A's rotted in the Coliseum there was a real awakening among the fanbase that they just didn't matter to ownership, or the city, or MLB.

[kcmets]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=123176 time=1682185763 user_id=68]Of course they don't matter. The idea that fans matter to the owners is a naive and childlike notion.

[vtmet7]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: It seems like they'd sooner change Athletics to Aces

it's not like the Baltimore Orioles remained the Orioles when they moved to NYC, they became the Highlanders and eventually the Yankees...The Expos became the Nationals...The Browns became the Orioles (and the Ravens)...the Pilots became the Twins...etc

[Benjamin Grimm]

Pilots became the Brewers. Senators became the Twins.



It would be a shame if the "Athletics" name was lost to history, but yes, it could happen.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=kcmets post_id=123204 time=1682197013 user_id=53]
=batmagadanleadoff post_id=123176 time=1682185763 user_id=68]Of course they don't matter. The idea that fans matter to the owners is a naive and childlike notion.

[Edgy MD]

Joan Whitney Payson loved me so much that it almost hurt.

[vtmet7]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Pilots became the Brewers. Senators became the Twins.

I was on a quick break from work, and didn't have time to do the research...but you got my intention...kind of like when "the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor"...



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[nymr83]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=123257 time=1682262178 user_id=68]
=kcmets post_id=123204 time=1682197013 user_id=53]
=batmagadanleadoff post_id=123176 time=1682185763 user_id=68]Of course they don't matter. The idea that fans matter to the owners is a naive and childlike notion.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I looked at the standings today for the first time in quite a while. I see that the A's are 12 and 45 with a .211 winning percentage. That projects to a final record of 34 and 128.



That would be... pretty bad.

[MFS62]

The local Las Vegas voters may soon ask why a new ballpark that only seats 30,000 will be paid for with $1.5 billion of taxpayers' money and not private money.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2023/may/29/nevada-legislators-weigh-plan-to-put-mlb-stadium-o/https://lasvegassun.com/news/2023/may/29/nevada-legislators-weigh-plan-to-put-mlb-stadium-o/



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[Edgy MD]

The answer to that is that the ballpark won't be what generates money for the state and municipality. The gambling will be.

[ashie62]

There is a website dedicated to stadium deals of all types



Field of Schemes

[vtmet7]

Edgy MD wrote: The answer to that is that the ballpark won't be what generates money for the state and municipality. The gambling will be.

I saw something yesterday that the A's are leaning towards 4 pm starts as their default starting time...their logic: people can go to the game and then still have time to hit the casinos afterwards...

[ashie62]

I'm picturing the casinos giving away thousands of comped A's tickets with a very limited number of people actually using them

[DocTee]

[bLOCKQUOTE]I saw something yesterday that the A's are leaning towards 4 pm starts as their default starting time...their logic: people can go to the game and then still have time to hit the casinos afterwards...[/bLOCKQUOTE]

lol



casinos never close



you can start a game at 11pm and there'd still be time to hit the casinos. I guess if you want to say "catch a game then catch a show" the start time matters but even a 7pm start now gets you on the strip by 10-1030

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: The answer to that is that the ballpark won't be what generates money for the state and municipality. The gambling will be. I saw something yesterday that the A's are leaning towards 4 pm starts as their default starting time...their logic: people can go to the game and then still have time to hit the casinos afterwards...

I read that they're starting at 4 so the fans can attend the 8PM shows at the casinos.

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