Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Over the past few weeks I've been mining old newspaper clippings in order to present them as a new feature on the UMDB.(This is an outgrowth of the http://phpbb3.leaptoad.com/mets/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29760Blasts from the Past thread that's been popping up every once in a while in this forum.)It's called http://leaptoad.com/mets/scrapbook.phpThe Ultimate Mets Scrapbook. I did a "soft launch" last week, but haven't done anything to publicize it. There's not yet a link on the UMDB menu, but it can be discovered by clicking around. http://leaptoad.com/mets/scrapbook.phpThe clippings include obituaries of Mets players and personnel, and articles about significant (and insignificant) events in Mets history.I'm including an index of all of the obits and articles that are currently available. The collection will grow over time. I'm presenting it here for feedback about any events I may have missed that would be worth including. Most of the headlines make it clear what the article is about, but if any are not, you can go ahead and find the actual articles on the page linked above.It's been fun collecting these articles. I hope visitors find it fun to browse them and read them.Let me know what you think![th]OBITUARIES[/th][th]ARTICLES[/th]Agee, TommieAshburn, RichieBamberger, GeorgeBerra, YogiBrown, LornCannizzaro, ChrisCardwell, DonCarter, GaryCashen, FrankCharles, EdChiti, HarryClendenon, DonnColeman, Choo ChooDevine, BingDoubleday, NelsonEllis, DockEspinosa, NinoFrazier, JoeFregosi, JimFrisella, DannyGibson, BobGrant, M. DonaldGreen, DallasGreen, PumpsieHamilton, DarrylHickman, JimHodges, GilHornsby, RogersJarvis, JaneKanehl, RodKiner, RalphKress, RedMcGraw, TugMcMillan, RoyMilner, JohnMizell, Vinegar BendMurphy, BobMurphy, JohnnyNelson, LindseyNiss, LouParker, SaltyPayson, JoanPiersall, JimRobinson, BillSeaver, TomShea, BillSnider, DukeSpahn, WarrenStaub, RustyStengel, CaseyStottlemyre, MelThroneberry, MarvWalker, RubeWestrum, WesYost, EddieYoung, Anthony[TABLE]10/6/1941An Indoor-Outdoor Stadium Could Seat 160,000 -- And Pay4/19/1957Moses Offers the Dodgers Site in Queens for Stadium6/22/1959This Rich Ball Fan Can Afford a Diamond7/28/1959Shea's New 3d Loop Is 'The Continental'10/18/1960NL Votes Return to Gotham in '62: Houston Also Included in Expansion10/18/1960Wagner, Shea Jubilant Over NL's Decision9/30/1961Casey to Pilot Mets; OKs 1 Year at 80G10/6/1961Mets' Stadium Lease Okayed; Work to Start3/18/1962Mets Broadcasting Team Promises to Be Just That3/18/1962The Powerhouse by Jimmy Powers4/11/1962Rain Postpones Met Debut; Try Again Tonight at St. Lou5/2/1962Puzzled Casey's Problem: How to Heat Cold Pitching6/18/1962Cubs Top Mets in 2 Games; Brock HR Hits Bleachers8/5/1962Portrait of a Ballclub9/25/1962The Kranepool Story: Wealthy, 17 and a Met4/2/1963Snider Begins With Half a Job6/27/1963Harkness Blasts a Hearty Hello6/22/1964Fair? Bunning Was Perfect: Jim-Dandy Day: 27 Mets, 27 Outs11/24/1964Who Will Mets Get Next? Khrushchev?11/24/1964Spahn, 43, Is a Met, Maps Comeback3/31/1965Casey Facing Decision: Can Yogi Cut Mustard?8/15/1965The Remarkable Career of Ron Swoboda9/4/1965Jim Hickman Takes the Bat Off His Shoulder 3 Times10/20/1965Metland is Utopia for Jerry Grote5/16/1966Tom Seaver Has Good Pro Start After Controversy and Confusion6/8/1966Drafty Start: 'Chil', Frost6/25/1966Casey's 'Baby' Catcher Becomes Met for 70G11/21/1967Tom Seaver Is the Miracle Met: Pick Pitcher NL 'Rookie'12/14/1967Mets Ready to Swing Davis-for-Agee Deal5/14/1968Mets 'Usher' in Jerry Koosman6/16/1968Mets Get 16 Hits Off Marichal but Giants Win, 9-511/22/1968Koosman Misses Award by a Vote7/10/1969Seaver, Perfect 8⅓, One-Hits Cubs, 4-010/4/1969Hodges discounts odds; Stengel sez Mets best10/15/1969Agee Calls 1st Catch Harder; Hodges Chooses 2d11/4/1969New York: Furs For Men Bags Another Sports Star12/4/1969Mets Land Foy to Play 3d, Send Otis, Johnson to KC4/14/1970After Slight Delay, Chilcott on Way11/4/1971Fergy Curves to Cy Award12/11/1971Big Deal! Mets Trade 4 for Fregosi; Angels Get Ryan, 3 Prospects4/3/1972Mets' Hodges Dies of Heart Attack4/7/1972Berra Signs 2-Year Pact as Mets' Manager; Staub Traded to Mets for Jorgy, Foli, & Singleton5/12/1972Mets' Deal Brings Willie 'Back to Paradise'5/12/1972Young Idea: Some Present for New York Fans5/15/1972Willie Boy's HR Tells 'Em He's Here: Mays, Staub Belt Giants, 5-45/15/1972His Swing Wasn't Rusty11/22/1972Matlack's Task: Find an Encore11/29/1972What's Going On Here; News Item: Mets trade Agee for Rich Chiles4/27/1973Mets Victory Was Earned, By George10/2/1973Sis, Boom & Ahhh! for Mets: Cheering Faithful Greet Team at LaG10/2/1973Mets Put Miracle on Flagpole!10/2/1973'You Gotta Believe... Gotta Believe!' A Whisper in July, War Cry in Stretch10/8/1973Jon Had 'Em All the Way10/8/1973Bud Hit the Reds Where It Hurt10/9/1973Rusty Was Best Swinger in the Game; 2 HRs in 9-2 Rout10/9/1973Slide by Rose Sparks a Free-for-All; Fans Toss Garbage, Reds Walk Off Field10/19/1973For a Sick Man, Cleon Swings a Healthy Bat10/19/1973A's Won't Find Help At Home10/22/1973No Miracle10/22/1973Mets Were Believers Until the Miracle Ended10/31/1973Cy Award Surprises Seaver3/1/1975Kingman a Met Steal at 125G5/15/1975Mets Fine Cleon After Fla., Kuhn Okays7/22/1975Torre: 4 At-Bats, 4 Double Plays8/5/1975Tate 0-Hits Expos Till 8th, Fans 13; Mets Tumble, 4-311/12/1975Seaver Tops Jones for 3rd Cy Young12/13/1975Mets Trade Staub for Lolich12/15/1975The Mets Have Found Speed By Trading Slowness Away7/20/1976Kingman Out Six Weeks; Braves Down Mets, 4-200/08/1977Lolich To Mets: I'm Not Coming4/27/1977Mets Add Some Punch - Buy Texas' Randle5/8/1977Says Grant: Seaver Is Forcing Me To Trade Him6/1/1977Joe Knows the Score; Nobody Wants Seaver6/1/1977Torre Met Manager; Replaces Frazier, Hired through '796/16/1977Reds Make Big Pitch, Give Four For Seaver6/16/1977Seaver to Reds and King to Padres6/16/1977Fans Uptight Over Seaver... but for How Long?6/16/1977'Much Relieved Inside' -- Kingman6/16/1977The Mets Trade Seaver to Cincinnati, Deal Kingman to San Diego6/16/1977Good Friend Gone, As Well as Pitcher8/13/1977A Not-So-Grand-Slam Breaks Millan's Collar12/2/1977Maddox Is Very Pleased With Newest Number(s); The Mets Step Into the Present12/9/19772 From Class of '71 Move On12/9/1977Harrelson Has Trouble With Some Answers12/10/1977Unsettling News for the Matlacks7/1/1978Met Rally in 9th Foils Bucs, 6-57/1/1978Mets Survive Collision With Pirates, 6-59/27/1978ERA Title 'Saves the Year' for Swan10/1/1978Some Harsh Sentences for a Season11/9/1978Mets Ax Grant, Eye Rose12/9/1978Koosman to Twins; Carew deal stalled12/10/1978Kooz last link to past2/8/1979Mets get a reliever, completing Kooz deal3/28/1979Mets Land Hebner: Espinosa to Phils for lefty slugger3/29/1979Hebner's bat fits like a glove4/7/1979How About the Queens' Boro?4/7/1979Orosco, the Rookie, Is a Precious Met6/15/1979Torre: Fine performance, lousy script7/9/1979Mule Name Nettles Mets' Fans7/11/1979All-Star pick Mazzilli: I should be starting11/1/1979Hebner dealt to Tigers for .211, .222 hitters1/25/1980METS SOLD: Record $21.1 million paid by Doubleday-Pickett group1/26/1980Mets: Series in '80s: 'Do anything to bring fans winner,' vows Wilpon1/27/1980The owners who give Mets Midas touch; Martin as manager could solve Mets problems6/4/1980Mets pick a Strawberry in draft6/15/1980Henderson HR in 9th Stuns the Giants, 7-66/15/1980Torre's faith has Mets believin' 5/22/1981Redmen Steal No-Hitter From Yale6/7/1981Don't Pick on Strawberry; He's Growing Into a Body10/20/1981Bamberger Gives In to Mets' Temptation10/21/1981New Pupils for Bamberger; Torre Sorting Job Opportunities2/11/1982Foster's $10M 2d richest pact2/12/1982Met players glad to have latest mate4/2/1982Mazzilli to Texas for 2 prospects8/31/1982Viewing the Mets in a New Light2/6/1983The Mets' Newest Announcing Team6/4/1983Bamberger's Had Enough6/16/1983Thin Pitching Key to Hernandez Deal6/16/1983Mets send Allen, Ownbey to Cards for Hernandez8/2/1983When a Diamond Becomes a Ring8/7/1983Terrell Is A 2-Timer In Met Win9/15/1983Dwight Gooden: He's been equal to lofty expectations of Mets11/22/1983Mets' Rookie of Distinction1/18/1984Seaver's Status No Cause for Alarm1/21/1984Tom-foolery lets Chisox nab Seaver1/21/1984Frankly, Met fans, Cashen blew it4/8/1984Mets' Gooden Off to a Fast Start11/20/1984Mets Gooden Rookie of Year12/8/1984Mets Bag a Tiger: Trade Terrell for third baseman Johnson12/11/1984Shea Becomes Carter Country12/11/1984Mets Get Carter: Send Brooks, Fitz, prospects to Expos9/7/1985Keith Admits All: Calls cocaine 'the devil on this earth'9/7/1985As Idols Fall, Truth Balances; Mets Not Losing Faith in Hernandez9/13/1985A glorious day at Shea; Hernandez lets his lumber do his latest talking10/2/1985The Yale Man Passes Toughest Test of Career11/14/1985The best is yet to come: Dwight's future can make one Cy with envy11/14/1985Mets Obtain Ojeda In Deal With Bosox11/14/1985Cy Youngest: Gooden wins award in unanimous vote11/14/1985More Than The Franchise11/14/1985Gooden to Get Plenty -- And Agents Know It7/13/1986'Stork' Brings Joy to Shea7/14/1986Rusty's big day was -- what else? -- a hit7/23/1986Full-Court Press: Darling, Teufel to fight assault charges7/23/1986HoJo's 3-run HR wins brawlgame10/12/1986Lenny rolls the dice: Unlikely heroes, Dykstra and Backman10/12/1986Tough as Nails: Dykstra's dramatic home run wins Game 310/13/1986Mets Feel Cheated: Say Scott's a scufflaw after loss that evens series10/16/1986Sweet taste of victory10/19/1986Sox Take Game 1: Teufel's error in seventh proves costly to Mets10/26/1986Mets Remain Alive: Score 3 in 10th after Sox get 2, force 7th game10/26/1986All the right moves? Managers take heat10/27/1986Ya gotta reprieve! Be it magic or not, Mets are alive for Game 710/28/1986Amazin's grace, how sweet it is3/27/1987Gooden pushes police complaint3/28/1987Mets Trade Hearn to KC: Gibbons, Lyons to make team4/2/1987The Doc Did Drugs: Entering clinic here at bidding of Ubie10/10/1988Gibson Evens It Up11/16/1988Kirk's MVP; Darryl 2d8/1/1989Mets Get Their Man: Get Viola for 5 pitchers; Mookie to Jays9/28/1989Darryl Makes Threatening Remarks9/28/1989Gregg-Roger Is Fight to Finish9/28/1989Davey: Is He Condemned Manager?9/28/1989Keith, Gary await final word from Mets9/28/1989Straw shuns extension5/17/1991Cashen: Try putting spell on Mackey6/5/1991Cone Does It His Way12/3/1991Mets Bag Bonilla!12/3/1991Mets Get Bonilla for $29M; How Deal Was Done; Return of the Native8/28/1992Cone Goes to Blue Jays: Mets decide his 'demands' can't be met8/28/1992Whos the New Guy, Kent? Solid at 2B, he packs some power, too.8/28/1992Move All Of 'Em Out? (Why stop at Cone?)7/26/1993Mets Coleman tagged as firework hurts fans8/11/1993Saberhagen Comes Clean: He admits to bleach incident; Dallas upset12/19/1996Mets show interest in Olerud12/21/1996Mets swap for Olerud; take time for Todd Talk5/23/1998Hundley Rings True; Todd welcomes power of Piazza5/23/1998Mets Deliver a Hot Piazza; Nab All-Star catcher for 3 prospects8/31/1999Alfonzo Does it 3 and Easy10/4/1999Opportunity Knocks for Franco10/4/1999Critical Success (Bobby V's biggest win)10/4/1999Eight Men Out: Turk keys Mets win10/5/1999Leiter Lights Way10/5/1999Rickey Thrives on Big Stage10/18/1999To Mets, It's Just Grand: Force ride to Atlanta on Ventura highway7/23/2000Larkin keeps Phillips' recruiting plan from taking flight10/22/2000Mets blunder on basepaths: Run selves right out of Series opener10/23/2000Mike's Unsplendid Splinter Incident10/23/2000An Olive Branch It Surely Was Not9/22/2001Piazza is glad to contribute; HR lights way for New York, New York9/22/2001New York gets to cheer again9/22/2001Mike HR Makes It Unforgettable; Mets insisted on taking hats off to New York City2/21/2002For Alomar, baseball is... All in the Family5/22/2002Mets star: I'm straight; Relaxed Piazza quashes rumors that he's coming out6/27/2002Mo's HR Stroke Coming Around9/8/2002Hernandez's Comments Draw Fire7/2/2003Exit of Man Who Wasn't Here; In city that never sleeps, he did12/16/2004Everyone feels just fine at Shea1/10/2005Omar makes The Boss fold; Magic is back for the fans1/12/2005Carlos: Ya Gotta Believe in Mets: New slugger, new attitude11/24/2005Delgado Believe12/15/2005Anna Claus is Naughty and Nice10/20/2006Chavez has gift of grab10/20/2006Unlikely power source10/1/2007Memo: Get a new slogan!2/3/2008Santana Aces Start In City: Hits streets, greets Met fans after passing physical3/2/2008Fernando Mania: 19-year-old phenom blazing a trail toward Shea3/12/2008Mets, fans talking up another Martinez6/18/2008Minaya: It was time to do it6/18/2008Pals Go To Bat For Randolph: Equate Willie's firing with 'classlessness'6/13/2009Castillo has team feeling glove-sick7/22/2009Tony Turns Met Farm Into Zoo; Shirtless Bernazard dares minor leaguers to fight, say sources9/29/2011Reyes: Take me out of ballgame6/2/2012Johan: Finally yes on no-no!11/15/2012Dream's Now In Grip: From outcast to hero, it's been an Awarding life4/14/2013Harvey is a two-hit wonder: No-no bid ends in 7th as righty overpowers Twins6/7/2013Mets Pick is Bourn Again11/11/2014DeGrom wins Rookie of Year5/28/2015Noah's Arc Simply Out of Sight! Mammoth HR & arm power Mets' sweep6/29/2015Break Up the Matz!7/30/2015What's the Deal? Trade for Brewers' Gomez 'will not transpire'8/1/2015Mets Grab Cespedes: Land slugger for 2 minor-leaguers8/1/2015Tears of Joy: Flores walk-off hero and Mets add slugger8/1/2015At deadline, life from Mets10/11/2015Met Loss Is Chase Ugly10/12/2015Days later, Terry still 'shaken up' by Utley 'slide'10/16/2015What a Relief: Thor & Familia close out L.A.10/22/2015Wonderful World: Series is next! Duda, Murphy power Mets to NL pennant11/2/2015Dark Knight For Mets! Harvey can't do it alone as Met dream ends in brutal Game 53/31/2016In a Pissy Mood: Toilet humor has Matt miffed, so he holds comments in6/18/2016Gator's Alonso brings big bat to World Series10/6/2016Noah comes up aces in wild loss10/6/2016Driving 'Em Mad: Bumgarner baffles Mets9/30/2018Good Wright & Good Luck: It's a flood of emotions as Mets Captain takes his final bow9/30/2018David deserved better9/30/2018One Final Bow for King of Queens: Wright's finale a tribute to one of great Mets11/15/2018Rare win for deGrom11/22/2018Cleon Still a Miracle Man9/10/2019Thor tells Brodie: Noah more Ramos11/12/2019Alonso Leaves No Doubt11/14/2019A Cy-Clone for Jake: Just like last year, deGrom wins Cy Young award in landslide
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Impresive.Is anyone nominating you to be the next head of the National Archives? (the search is currently on)I'd vote for you.Later
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 This is a resource. Thank you.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 1/18/1984 "Seaver's Status No Cause for Alarm"I remembereth this item completely.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 Marty Noble was wrong on that one, wasn't he?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 =G-Fafif post_id=111505 time=1666104910 user_id=55]This is a resource. Thank you.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 This is super cool. How much labor is there for you to get all these images collected?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 Not a whole lot. These images are downloads; I'm not seeking out actual hard copies. I have to trim some of the clippings, and those that are continued on multiple pages take a little extra effort, but I have it down to a pretty simple routine.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Wow wow wowCan't wait to dive in!
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Marty Noble was wrong on that one, wasn't he?It's what's missed in the Seaver-fumble story. During the short time the free-agent compensation draft existed, there developed a tradition, to the extent that it can be called a tradition, of exposing high cost veterans.The idea would be that someone who just lost a free agent because they didn't want to bloat their payroll wouldn't want a veteran whose contract is paying him for what he did in previous years. So the Mets exposed the Seavers, the Fosters, and the Kingmen in order to protect the Gaffs and the Gardners. There also seemed to be some sort of gentleman's agreement in place that such franchise-identifying players wouldn't be gobbled.Now, the logic of both those notions clearly had its limits. Some veterans were eventually going to be seen as worth it, and some owner was going to see that the gentleman's agreement was just a way of screwing over those teams with compensation picks — for a second time, after the first time was losing their player in free agency.None of that should excuse the Mets' decision, but Cashen exposing Seaver shouldn't be seen as some sort of oversight. He was just behaving as most every other team was behaving and betting on safety in numbers.Not so much. Kingman was released two weeks later. He cleared waivers and was signed only two months later at the end of spring training. So yeah, these contracts were pretty untouchable, but the Sox correctly concluded that Seaver still had some value.
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 This is fun! Thanks for letting us test drive it before going public.The Kranepool Story: Wealthy, 17 and a Met -- NYDN 9/25/1962By Joe KrupinskiOh BOY, I bet he got almost six figures!!
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 I think Kingman was already gone by then. (Noble's article mentions Seaver, Foster, and Staub.) Wasn't Kingman released during the 1983 season after Keith Hernandez arrived?
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Benjamin Grimm wrote:I think Kingman was already gone by then. (Noble's article mentions Seaver, Foster, and Staub.) Wasn't Kingman released during the 1983 season after Keith Hernandez arrived?I think Kingman finished out the '83 season with the Mets. The famous line was Kingman telling Hernandez shortly after Keith arrived, (they were both first basemen) was something like "I'm glad the Mets got you, so that now I can get the hell out of here." (Or something like that).
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 I found Casey Facing Decision: Can Yogi Cut Mustard? interesting. It gave me some insight about Yogi Berra's brief time as an active Mets player that I wasn't aware of. It was also interesting to read Warren Spahn's comments on becoming a Met.I just want to repeat: If anyone can think of any events from Mets history that should be included, please let me know.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Benjamin Grimm wrote:I just want to repeat: If anyone can think of any events from Mets history that should be included, please let me know.This is great. Bruce Stark cartoons. I loved those.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 I think Kingman finished out the '83 season with the Mets. The famous line was Kingman telling Hernandez shortly after Keith arrived, (they were both first basemen) was something like "I'm glad the Mets got you, so that now I can get the hell out of here." (Or something like that).You're right... I looked it up. The Mets didn't release Kingman until January of 1984.He didn't play much after Keith arrived. He only had 44 at bats over the last three months of the season.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Benjamin Grimm wrote:I just want to repeat: If anyone can think of any events from Mets history that should be included, please let me know.This is great. Bruce Stark cartoons. I loved those.Do you have access to the old New York World-Telegram? (If such a database even exists). If so, you could reprint Willard Mullin's cartoons. That'd be awesome.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Almost any trade for a veteran is interesting in retrospect, especially if they happen in season. "Mets Land Berenyi" or "Mets Make Swap for Baerga" is always useful because these deals get debated forever and we sometimes make claims about what the thinking was at the time.Also, stories announcing big-ticket draft picks make for good reading much later.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 Edgy MD wrote:Also, stories announcing big-ticket draft picks make for good reading much later.I do have an article about Darryl Strawberry's selection. And two about Steve Chilcott: http://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00115.jpghttp://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00115.jpghttp://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00111.jpghttp://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00111.jpgThat reminds me... I had meant to look for an article about Tim Foli; he's kind of a surprising first-in-the-nation pick.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 =batmagadanleadoff post_id=111526 time=1666115310 user_id=68]Do you have access to the old New York World-Telegram? (If such a database even exists). If so, you could reprint Willard Mullin's cartoons. That'd be awesome.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Mackey Sassers story is sad. And it's interesting that they considered it a physical instead of mental problem. The poor guy never had a chance with that kind of treatments
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Seriously great. Nice work BG
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 Edgy MD wrote:Almost any trade for a veteran is interesting in retrospect, especially if they happen in season. "Mets Land Berenyi" or "Mets Make Swap for Baerga" is always useful because these deals get debated forever and we sometimes make claims about what the thinking was at the time.Because you asked for it:http://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00313.jpgMets get Reds' Berenyihttp://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00314.jpgMet Gamble: Kent, Viz dealt for iffy BaergaIt's funny how memory can be faulty. I was sure that Baerga's first name was "Carlos", but it turns out it was "Iffy". Iffy Baerga.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 Benjamin Grimm wrote:I just want to repeat: If anyone can think of any events from Mets history that should be included, please let me know.This is great. Bruce Stark cartoons. I loved those.Because you asked for it:http://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00315.jpgFacing Up to Ithttp://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00316.jpgOur Gang
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Benjamin Grimm wrote:I just want to repeat: If anyone can think of any events from Mets history that should be included, please let me know.This is great. Bruce Stark cartoons. I loved those.Because you asked for it:http://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00315.jpgFacing Up to Ithttp://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00316.jpgOur GangThis is great. There was some other illustrator who drew Mets sports cartoons for the Daily News in the mid-60s. Fella by the name of Springer. Frank Springer. Whoever that was. (Check out the July 29, 1964 Daily News, for example).Did some Batman covers, too, among lotsa other stuff.[FIMG=666]https://p1.liveauctioneers.com/6586/247886/128533471_1_x.jpg?quality=80&version=1652215967[/FIMG]
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Edgy MD wrote:Almost any trade for a veteran is interesting in retrospect, especially if they happen in season. "Mets Land Berenyi" or "Mets Make Swap for Baerga" is always useful because these deals get debated forever and we sometimes make claims about what the thinking was at the time.Because you asked for it:http://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00313.jpgMets get Reds' Berenyihttp://leaptoad.com/mets/clipping.php?filename=00314.jpgMet Gamble: Kent, Viz dealt for iffy BaergaIt's funny how memory can be faulty. I was sure that Baerga's first name was "Carlos", but it turns out it was "Iffy". Iffy Baerga.Nice! Eddie Williams was the prize in that deal, but Jay Tibbs ended up having the stronger career, including a really strong rookie year.I guess Lindor's second year suggests all-star infielders from Cleveland don't always crash in New York after all.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Hah. The Mets moved Edgardo Alfonzo over to third base to accomodate Carlos Baerga, who turned out to be a big bust. Ironically, a key part of the Mets turnaround in 1999 included Alfonzo moving back to second base right after the Mets let Baerga walk in free agency. Alfonzo's return to second base allowed the Mets to sign third baseman Robin Ventura. For 1999, the Mets essentially swapped Baerga for Ventura. Baerga pretty much sucked for the rest of his career. So maybe, Indian GM John Hart really did know something about Baerga that the Mets never figured out, or figured out when it was too late.
DocTee Old-Timey Member Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 That Baerga trade killed me then like the JD Davis trade does this year. I *knew* Jeff Kent was a surefire star, and I feel we will rue the JD Davis banishment in similar ways
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2022 Author Posted October 21, 2022 I have a counter in place to see how many clicks each of the scrapbook pages gets, and so far the leader is, for whatever reason, John Milner's obituary. I don't think I would have guessed that.
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