As we approach the ten-year anniversary

[Willets Point]

I don't understand what all the handwringing is about. No-hitters are awesome! We love the Mets! Thus, a Mets pitcher getting a no-hitter is awesome! I'd never seen a no-hitter happen live, either at the ballpark or on tv. And then one night about 10 years ago I tuned into a game of my favorite team and saw a no hitter. It was my first no-hitter and my team's first no-hitter, and it was great! As I've noted before, I felt so emotional that I wept a little. I really don't understand why anyone could think this is a bad thing.

[kcmets]

Willets Point wrote: I don't understand what all the handwringing is about. No-hitters are awesome! We love the Mets!

We love 2:35 minute games! Oops, sorry to interrupt. Carry on...

[seawolf17]

Willets Point wrote: I don't understand what all the handwringing is about. No-hitters are awesome! We love the Mets! Thus, a Mets pitcher getting a no-hitter is awesome! I'd never seen a no-hitter happen live, either at the ballpark or on tv. And then one night about 10 years ago I tuned into a game of my favorite team and saw a no hitter. It was my first no-hitter and my team's first no-hitter, and it was great! As I've noted before, I felt so emotional that I wept a little. I really don't understand why anyone could think this is a bad thing.

This, exactly. Like, why can't you just enjoy things? It's just a game. If something GOOD happening to your supposedly favorite team makes you angry, then maybe you need a new hobby.

[roger_that]

"If something GOOD happening to your supposedly favorite team "



That's the question. Recent managerial practices suggest it's something VERY BAD happening to your pitcher. No-hitters are by definition complete games, Some are complete games with very high pitch counts. In the past years, we've taken to removing pitchers with very high pitch counts no matter what, and getting more so every day.



Do you think Santana would be left in to pitch the ninth today? Or even the eighth? I doubt it, myself. The question is whether this development is a good thing or a bad thing.

[roger_that]

didn't quote roger_what properly.

roger_what is someone else. So is roger_who, roger_which, roger_how, and go_roger_yourself.



I'm roger_that.



This question keeps getting more interesting. The dilemma of pitch-counts vs. no-hitters seems to affect us in different ways. To those reactionaries denying the validity of pitch-counts in the face of a potential no-hitter, how far do want to take it? If your pitcher has thrown 130 pitches going into the ninth, I get it, you want him in the game, but do you back off at 140? 180? How about if he's thumping his chest and screaming "I'm a man!" at you? How about if he's never thrown 120 pitches before in his life? (As some young pitchers, I imagine, never have.) How about if he confesses "My arm is killing me, but please Skip I want this no-hitter!"?

[Edgy MD]

I certainly feel that managers pulling starters earlier and earlier is less about protecting the pitchers' arms and more about protecting their jobs.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

It's interesting that this thread is sorta pursuing two questions that are related but very different:



To what extent is going for the no-hitter responsible for an injury?



To what extent was going for the no-hitter influenced by the fact the Mets never had one?

[Edgy MD]

For what it's worth, I distinctly recall Terry letting on that what this moment historically means to this franchise fed into his thinking in deciding to stick with Santana.



He also shed about a quart of blood in expressing how guilty he felt.

[kcmets]

Edgy MD wrote: For what it's worth, I distinctly recall Terry letting on that what this moment historically means to this franchise fed into his thinking in deciding to stick with Santana. He also shed about a quart of blood in expressing how guilty he felt.

I don't remember the latter part but now kinda remember the first part. I'll

find a quote in the weboladatabanks when time permits.

[Lefty Specialist]

I just realized I've got tickets to the June 1st game (it's a gay dame) against the Nats. Imagine there'll be some reminiscing on the scoreboard for the 10th anniversary.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

You are missing the big celebration by a day: https://nypost.com/2022/03/28/mets-honoring-10th-anniversary-of-johan-santanas-no-hitter/https://nypost.com/2022/03/28/mets-honoring-10th-anniversary-of-johan-santanas-no-hitter/