First-Round Fever: A Krane Pool Kwiz

[Edgy MD]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=80190 time=1635196924 user_id=119]
Out of the basement!

Your bonus question: How many players drafted in the first round by the Mets retired without ever playing for them?

Making some assumptions here, I'm guessing you are saying guys who went to the minors but didn't get to the majors with the Mets, as opposed to guys like Kumar Rocker, who didn't play at all in the Mets system --which would be a trick question.



So, in 56 years, knowing most of these guys with the Mets don't make it, I'm guessing 30 of the 56.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: How many siblings of 1986 Mets were drafted by an MLB team?

I'll go with five. The brothers of Keith, Ronnie, Mookie ... and probably two others I don't know about.

Which Mets first-round draft choice (not necessarily a Met) was the first such draftee to receive a bonus valued at over a million dollars ...?

So this is a guy who was drafted by the Mets but didn't necessarily play for them, as opposed to one who played for them but wasn't necessarily drafted by them?

... in 2021 dollars

Oh good, I get to incorporate the rate of inflation over multiple years, or maybe even multiple decades, into my answer!

Do I get time to get an Economics degree first or do you need the answer sooner?

[Edgy MD]

Please don't sneeze at a 10-point opportunity.



Thanks for answering the 1986 question. There were, in fact, more than five brothers of 1986 Mets who were drafted and played pro ball.

[Chad ochoseis]

Your bonus question: Which first round, before 2017, produced the lowest average career bWAR among all draftees?



1974.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Edgy MD wrote: =Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=80190 time=1635196924 user_id=119] Out of the basement! Your bonus question: How many players drafted in the first round by the Mets retired without ever playing for them? Making some assumptions here, I'm guessing you are saying guys who went to the minors but didn't get to the majors with the Mets, as opposed to guys like Kumar Rocker, who didn't play at all in the Mets system --which would be a trick question. So, in 56 years, knowing most of these guys with the Mets don't make it, I'm guessing 30 of the 56.

Well, Kumar didn't retire, so we're really looking for first rounders who (a) failed to graduate from the minors, or ( graduated from the minors only after moving on to another organization.



Guessing 30 is coming in high.



Nonetheless, keep in mind that the Mets have had more than 56 first-round draft picks, garnering multiple picks in some years.

[Edgy MD]

Chad ochoseis wrote: Your bonus question: Which first round, before 2017, produced the lowest average career bWAR among all draftees? 1974.

Good guess, but the year we're looking for is later. The 1974 first round gave the world Dale Murphy.

Edgy MD wrote: =Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=80190 time=1635196924 user_id=119] Out of the basement! Making some assumptions here, I'm guessing you are saying guys who went to the minors but didn't get to the majors with the Mets, as opposed to guys like Kumar Rocker, who didn't play at all in the Mets system --which would be a trick question. So, in 56 years, knowing most of these guys with the Mets don't make it, I'm guessing 30 of the 56. Well, Kumar didn't retire, so we're really looking for first rounders who (a) failed to graduate from the minors, or ( graduated from the minors only after moving on to another organization. Guessing 30 is coming in high. Nonetheless, keep in mind that the Mets have had more than 56 first-round draft picks, garnering multiple picks in some years.

I'm staying in the ballpark with 28. Darn you, Scott Kazmir and your ilk who played elsewhere!

[Centerfield]

Gavin Cecchini

[Edgy MD]

Thank you for jumping in there and Gavining. The judges will have that scored just as soon as we catch up on these answers and folks lock in their bonus question responses!

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Tijuan Walker

You left out the “a” in his first name, but are damned correct about his draft status! (If only just!) TW went to Seattle with the 43rd overall pick in the 2010 draft, but still, technically, in the first round! This wins you five points and pulls you into a tie for sixth place! Third place is within your reach if you can answer your bonus question!



We spin the wheel and assign you a bonus question: How many players who played for the Mets were #1 OVERALL picks?



I believe you've already had this one, so here's a real chance for you to break the bank!

Frayed Knot wrote: Looper

Yes, once upon a time, Braden Loop-de-doop was a high-value draft pick, and he's still paying dividends today by winning you five points! This helps you leapfrog Ben Grimm into third place! It also earns you to chance to win big points by answering a bonus question — not that you will! But the chance is there!



Your unwanted bonus question is a repeater: Who was the first US first lady with a formal education?

Porcello Think 1967 Red Sox. A bad Mets trade.

I'm still trying to figure out the meaning of your second paragraph, but … YES! Rick Porcello!



Evoking Rick's sweet name earns you five points and delivers you from the cellar!!



ashie's bonus question: How many children or stepchildren of 1986 Mets were drafted by an MLB team?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Joe Panik

Well-played! Joe Panik shared the distinction of going to the Giants in the first round along with Zack Wheeler. He went 29th overall in 2011, and you breathing his cognomen has enriched your score by five chips.



This pulls you into a tie for fourth place! And that is a tie you can rocket out of if you can answer a bonus question!



Lunchable bonus question: What city has the largest Francophone metropolitan area? THE RANDOMIZER KEEPS BRINGING US BACK TO THAT ONE!



Scoring

2. Lefty Specialist: 31


4. Chad Ochoseis: 24


6. Frayed Knot: 18


8. Johnny Lunchbucket: 16


10. Ben Grimm: 16


12. Seawolf: 12


14. Gwreck: 11


16. Marshmallow Milkshake: 8


18. ashie: 8

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[metsmarathon]

is there a list of incorrect guesses available for one such as myself who's late to the party?



that said... noah syndergaard

[Edgy MD]

=metsmarathon post_id=80287 time=1635354344 user_id=83]is there a list of incorrect guesses available for one such as myself who's late to the party?

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Edgy MD wrote: Wait ... did you earn a second swipe at that question? I'm not sure you did.

DOH! I didn't realize we had to earn those.



Pat Tabler!

[Chad ochoseis]

Robbie Alomar seems like the type that would go in the first round. Speed, ballplayer look, baseball family. I'll go with him as my next 1st round guess.

[metsmarathon]

imma followup my syndergaard with a dickey. r.a. dickey.

[Chad ochoseis]

Steve Henderson. I think Mets brass billed him as a superstar, though that may have been just to keep away pitchfork-and-torch wielding Seaver fans.

[metsmarathon]

is ron darling still on the board? is it cool if i snag him for my own points?

[Centerfield]

Shawon Dunston

[metsmarathon]

man, i liked shawon dunston when he was here.



you know who did not leave as positive an impression? cameron maybin. i damn near forget he was even on the team this year. but damn, he's got the stink of a former first-rounder doesn't he?

[Edgy MD]

Chad ochoseis wrote: I think Butch Huskey was a first rounder. At least, he was a can't-miss guy until he actually did miss.

I missed this guess. Butch was a seventh-round pick in 1989 out of Eisenhower High in Lawton, OK. Minus one for you.



"Can't miss" indeed! Butch ROCKED! You know how many picks from that round out-performed Butch Huskey that year? ONE! (And that one was Russ Springer of the Yankees, so you know he took PEDs.)



Worry not! You are still firmly in second place!

The Honorable Bobby Valentine!

Bobby V. Is not only honorable, but RIGHT honorable, and he was honored with the Dodgers' first pick (fifth overall) in 1968.



That means five points for you! You have jumped from eighth to sixth! Less danger of relegation!

[th]Bonus Question for Marshmallowmilkshake[/th]
	Name two hockey Hall of Famers drafted behind Tom Glavine in the NHL draft in 1984?
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

Chad ochoseis wrote: And now that we're active again, I think Gary Gentry was on his way to greatness before he ran into arm trouble. What might have been if Dr. Frank Jobe had thought about harvesting tendons a few years sooner than he did? We might be talking about GG surgery and not TJ surgery. Anyway, Gary's my guess as another first round pick.

Gary might have been a first-rounder under other circumstances or other conditions. He was selected in the 11th round by Houston initially in 1965. When he didn't sign, Baltimore selected him in the first round of the January 1966 secondary phase. The Mets ultimately signed him as a third round pick in the supplemental stage of the 1967 June draft, but ultimately, he doesn't fit our criteria.



A point lost, but nothing ventured, nothing gained!

Gavin Cecchini

Cheech gets you on the board! Five points for you! That's one point for every homer Cecchini hit in AA this season!

[th]Bonus Question for centerfield[/th]
	How many Mets were picked in the first round twice?
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

Scoring

2. Lefty Specialist: 31


4. Chad Ochoseis: 22


6. Frayed Knot: 18


8. Johnny Lunchbucket: 16


10. Ben Grimm: 16


12. Marshmallow Milkshake: 13


14. Seawolf: 12


16. Gwreck: 11


18. ashie: 8


20. centerfield: 5

Incorrect Guesses

2. Randy Myers


4. Butch Huskey


6. Gary Gentry

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[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Edgy MD wrote: [th]Bonus Question for Marshmallowmilkshake[/th] Name two hockey Hall of Famers drafted behind Tom Glavine in the NHL draft in 1984?

The Golden Brett Hull and Luc Robitalle!



Next drafter guess: John Candelaria

[Edgy MD]

That's a 10-point jump from sixth to second!



Scoring

2. Lefty Specialist: 31


4. Marshmallow Milkshake: 23


6. Chad Ochoseis: 22


8. Frayed Knot: 18


10. Johnny Lunchbucket: 16


12. Ben Grimm: 16


14. Seawolf: 12


16. Gwreck: 11


18. ashie: 8


20. centerfield: 5

Incorrect Guesses

• Gary Gentry


• Butch Huskey


• Randy Myers

[metsmarathon]

doc gooden

[Edgy MD]

The tension in this field can be felt from the back row!!

is there a list of incorrect guesses available for one such as myself who's late to the party? that said... noah syndergaard

That said, … YES! Noah comes from an exciting crop of pitchers drafted in 2010! And because he was drafted by a team other than the Mets, you get five points! YOU'RE ON THE BOARD!!

[th]Bonus Question for metsmarathon[/th]
	Which first round produced the best average bWAR among all draftees?
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

Pat Tabler!

As unlikely as it is, you look for perennial star when you're picking in the first round. That's not what the Yankees got in Pat Tabler, who would never play for them, and who would make only one All-Star Team in his 12-year career.



But hey, if you can't get a perennial All-Star, grabbing a 12-year big-leaguer who puts up a .489 / .505 / .693 // 1.198 career mark with the bases loaded is pretty good too. And just typing his name gets you five points!



This pulls you within three points of the lead!

[th]Bonus Question for Marshmallowmilkshake[/th]
	What is the hottest planet in the Solar System?
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

Chad ochoseis wrote: Robbie Alomar seems like the type that would go in the first round. Speed, ballplayer look, baseball family. I'll go with him as my next 1st round guess.

Roberto was all those things, but he was one thing additionally, and that thing is born in Puerto Rico, which, by the rules of the time, exempted him from the draft.



That's a point chopped off your score, plummeting you from third all the way down to third!

imma followup my syndergaard with a dickey. r.a. dickey.

Cy Young winner Red Ass Dickey was indeed the first round draft pick (#16 overall) for 1996 Texas Rangers. This fact nets you five lovely points! And vaults you out out of the cellar into ninth place!

[th]Bonus Question for metsmarathon[/th]
	John Stearns was taken second overall by the Phillies in the 1973 draft. The next two teams selected future Hall-of-Famers. Name these two selections.
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

Scoring

2. Lefty Specialist: 31


4. Marshmallow Milkshake: 28


6. Chad Ochoseis: 21


8. Frayed Knot: 18


10. Johnny Lunchbucket: 16


12. Ben Grimm: 16


14. Seawolf: 12


16. Gwreck: 11


18. metsmarathon: 10


20. ashie: 8


22. centerfield: 5

Incorrect Guesses

2. Roberto Alomar


4. Gary Gentry


6. Butch Huskey


8. Randy Myers

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[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Jeromy Burnitz

[Chad ochoseis]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Jeromy Burnitz

For the past couple of days, I'd been thinking "get back on the board and guess the mandible. Guess the mandible. Guess the mandible." But I never did get around to it.



Rick Ankiel.

[metsmarathon]

[th]Bonus Question for metsmarathon[/th]
	Which first round produced the best average bWAR among all draftees?
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

1988

[th]Bonus Question for metsmarathon[/th]
	John Stearns was taken second overall by the Phillies in the 1973 draft. The next two teams selected future Hall-of-Famers. Name these two selections.
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

Oakland

Pittsburgh

[metsmarathon]

jay bruce

[Edgy MD]

[th]Bonus Question for metsmarathon[/th] Which first round produced the best average bWAR among all draftees? Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

1988
This is a solid guess, as the 1988 first round gave us the likes of Robin Ventura and Brian Jordan, along with the usual share of also-rans, averaging 8.86 bWAR per pick, but the first round we're looking for came in an earlier year than that.

[th]Bonus Question for metsmarathon[/th] John Stearns was taken second overall by the Phillies in the 1973 draft. The next two teams selected future Hall-of-Famers. Name these two selections. Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

Oakland

Pittsburgh


It looks like I was unclear here. We're looking for the names of the next two players selected, not the next two teams to select. Please try again.



And while we're reviewing bonus answers to bonus questions, before we move on, please note that we still have a few sailors in the water.

[th]Bonus Question for centerfield[/th]
	How many Mets were picked in the first round twice?
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

[th]Bonus Question for Marshmallowmilkshake[/th]
	What is the hottest planet in the Solar System?
	Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Edgy MD wrote: [th]Bonus Question for Marshmallowmilkshake[/th] What is the hottest planet in the Solar System? Incorrect Guesses on This Question So Far None

I am going to go with Mercury because it is closest to the sun, and the Mets will play there some day, which might cool it off for a little bit.



My next guess: Francisco Lindor!

[Edgy MD]

That would have been my guess and my reasoning too, but Mercury is incorrect.

[Chad ochoseis]

Edgy MD wrote: This is a solid guess, as the 1988 first round gave us the likes of Robin Ventura and Brian Jordan, along with the usual share of also-rans, averaging 8.86 bWAR per pick, but the first round we're looking for came in an earlier year than that.

A devious person would just guess the heretofore unguessed Robin Ventura as a Metly first rounder and grab an easy five points, but we're not that devious, right?











I propose that we remove Robin Ventura from the first round board.