IGT 7/17/18: All-Star Game, "This Time It Doesn't Count"

[bmfc1]

deGrom!

[MFS62]

I'll predict he won't get the decision.
Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

DeGrom is the obvious choice. Really the only choice.

[G-Fafif]

Very happy for Jake, the first Met to earn multiple selections as a Met since David Wright's last All-Star berth in 2013.

Mets who've been the Mets' only pick more than once (pending lightning striking and Nimmo suddenly getting named):

Ron Hunt 1964, 1966
John Stearns 1977, 1980, 1982 (also picked alongside Mazzilli in 1979)
Bobby Bonilla 1993, 1995
Mike Piazza 1999, 2002 (also picked alongside teammates five times)
Jacob deGrom 2015, 2018

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: DeGrom is the obvious choice. Really the only choice.

Mets have like 40 guys who could've gone.

Did you mean some mystical merit based game? Well, Nimmo obviously. Asdrubal has fallen off a bit lately but he's still have a good season. He wouldn't be a bad pick.

Zack Wheeler is 11th in qualified SP fWAR. That's probably border line but wouldn't be a wrong pick depending on who bows out/pitches Sunday and how many relievers you take.


That's probably it though.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Ceetar wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: DeGrom is the obvious choice. Really the only choice. Mets have like 40 guys who could've gone.

Forty? Really? I think you're too high by about 39.

[Vic Sage]

i think he's too high, too.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: DeGrom is the obvious choice. Really the only choice. Mets have like 40 guys who could've gone. Forty? Really? I think you're too high by about 39.

I"m low. 46 players have played for the Mets this season, and if fans had decided to mount a campaign and vote in Phillip Evans, he would've played in the game.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Oh, so you're talking about people who are technically eligible, the same way that I'm eligible to be pope because I was baptized Catholic, even though I'm now an athiest.

I was talking about reasonable choices. Philip Evans is as likely to be an All-Star as I am to be the next pope. Jacob deGrom is the only Met who deserves to be an All-Star based on merit. If he wasn't around, then the Mets would get a pity choice.

[Edgy MD]

You gotta be unmarried to be pope. My money is on Evans.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm sure you know more about this than I do, but I found this simple explanation, which means I have a shot:

6. The next pope doesn’t necessarily have to be a cardinal. There are only two requirements for becoming pope: being male and being baptized into the Catholic Church. But although this technically leaves hundreds of millions of people eligible, they shouldn’t hold their breath. A non-cardinal hasn’t been chosen since 1378, when the selection of Urban VI brought about the Western Schism.

And this more detailed explanation, which would rule me out, not because of marriage but because of parts of (1) and (4) and (5):

A person who is elected as Roman Pontiff must be ordained a bishop immediately after election, if he does not already hold such office. Second: Can. 378 §1. In regard to the suitability of a candidate for the episcopacy, it is required that he is: 1/ outstanding in solid faith, good morals, piety, zeal for souls, wisdom, prudence, and human virtues, and endowed with other qualities which make him suitable to fulfill the office in question; 2/ of good reputation; 3/ at least thirty-Five years old; 4/ ordained to the presbyterate for at least Five years; 5/ in possession of a doctorate or at least a licentiate in sacred scripture, theology, or canon law from an institute of higher studies approved by the Apostolic See, or at least truly expert in the same disciplines.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Oh, so you're talking about people who are technically eligible, the same way that I'm eligible to be pope because I was baptized Catholic, even though I'm now an athiest. I was talking about reasonable choices. Philip Evans is as likely to be an All-Star as I am to be the next pope. Jacob deGrom is the only Met who deserves to be an All-Star based on merit. If he wasn't around, then the Mets would get a pity choice.

well, you're still wrong as i made the case for the merits of three others.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, I disagree. So you're wrong. Cabrera, Nimmo, and Wheeler (I guess) are having good seasons, but not deserving of All-Star. (Unless as a solo Mets pity selection.)

[seawolf17]

Nimmo's the only other player this season who'd even come close.

[Edgy MD]

Cabrera's sixth in fWAR among NL secondbaseman. He'd be a higher (and a defensible All-Star choice), but his baserunning has been pedestrian and his defense an unambiguous negative.

Of course, that was before today's homerun. Tomorrow's data may disagree.

[Frayed Knot]

Aroldis Chapman is this year's entry in the annual Yanqui tradition of pulling out of the All-Star game citing a strain of his 'I don't want to pitch in the All-Star Game' tendon.

[Guest 41Forever]

Frayed Knot wrote: Aroldis Chapman is this year's entry in the annual Yanqui tradition of pulling out of the All-Star game citing a strain of his 'I don't want to pitch in the All-Star Game' tendon.

Not that I want to get in the habit of defending MFY scum, but when we were at the game in Toronto on Saturday, Chapman left after one batter claiming injury. I don't know if he's pitched since then.

[Frayed Knot]

He hasn't pitched since way back ... yesterday.

The Yanx only had a three run lead and, in fairness, the Indians did have the bottom of the lineup due up.

[HahnSolo]

Its a rite of July: the annual tradition of Yankee fans imploring voters/managers to put 8, 9, even 10 MFYs on the all-star team but protesting violently when they actually have to play in the game.

[G-Fafif]

Scherzer vs. Sale, with Dave Roberts announcing Jake will be first reliever in.

[Centerfield]

Not a surprise. I guess you could make the case Kershaw deserved it over Harvey in 2013.

It is what it is.

But this year, it usually ends with Jake getting screwed.

[G-Fafif]

Centerfield wrote: Not a surprise. I guess you could make the case Kershaw deserved it over Harvey in 2013. It is what it is. But this year, it usually ends with Jake getting screwed.

Interesting how home field has been a factor the last two times we've had a legitimate ASG starter candidate. Harvey and Kershaw would have been close in any ballpark; same for deGrom and Scherzer.

At least Roberts intends to use a Met at some point in the game, unlike Terry Collins in 2016.

[G-Fafif]

Senior Circuit

Baez 2B
Arnado 3B
Goldschmidt Some Bullshit Position That Shouldn't Exist
Freeman 1B
Kemp LF
Harper CF
Markakis RF
Crawford SS
Contreras C

Scherzer SP
DeGrom First RP, or the best reason for watching

[G-Fafif]

Junior Circuit

Betts RF
Altuve 2B
Trout CF
Martinez Not Exactly A Baseball Position
Ramirez 3B
Judge LF
Machado SS
Abreu 1B
Fuck Salvador Perez for 2015 C
Sale P

[Edgy MD]

Nothing gets by Major League Catcher Salvador Peréz. Not even bugs.

[Guest 41Forever]

Bum Nationals fans just booed deGrom! Bastards.

Loved Harper’s pre-game interview, though.

[Guest 41Forever]

Very impressive presentation with Medal of Honor recipients and anthem!

[Zvon]

Before baseball vid games, which are awsome, we had baseball games like this one, and I loved this one.
In retrospect it was lame but I loved it.

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[Guest 41Forever]

I didn’t realize that each league has won 43 games.

[Zvon]

41Forever wrote: I didn’t realize that each league has won 43 games.

I didn't know that either. Very cool.