Mayday Matt Harvey

[Guest d'Kong76]

He was asked why not. "I dont [expletive] want to," Harvey replied.

Oh boy, this tactic always works well with the NY press lol.

[Guest 41Forever]

d'Kong76 wrote: He was asked why not. "I dont [expletive] want to," Harvey replied. Oh boy, this tactic always works well with the NY press lol.

Answers like that are the reason Communiations directors buy Tums at Costco.

[G-Fafif]

"I felt all right. A little different, obviously. We'll see. I just wanna pitch and help us win. Thanks guys."

That's all he has to say. "Harvey spoke briefly" comes off much better than "Harvey told us to go fuck ourselves."

Honestly, I'm not all that interested in his thoughts on relief pitching. And those asking him aren't all that interested. It's all a bit of kabuki, owing to the man bites dog aspect of him as a reliever, but just be a person and move on.

[Ceetar]

The flip side of this is Harvey is well within his rights to not talk to the media if he doesn't want to and if the worst you get is a curse after you've literally asked him a half dozen times for a quote and ignored his request not to talk about it, well, big fucking deal. I mean, is it really that wrong for him to want to process the transition on his own without having to define it to reporters first?

But you guys know I have little tolerance for the media game. Harvey's a douche, but we've known that. This changes nothing, means nothing, and is just filler content anyway. Sure, he could be nicer to the media. he could be a 'better person' or whatever, but his interactions with the media is literally 0% of what i need or want from him.

Doubly so for the media countering with "oh, let's bug Nido about Harvey's appearance and then blame Harvey for us bugging Nido about Harvey". fuck off, that's making the news not reporting the news.

[Fman99]

Here's the earliest I could find of my referring to Harvey as a douchebag: http://archives.thecranepool.net/19400/f1_t19477.shtml

I'm just happy I got to relive a joke I made about a robot having sex with a lady.

[Guest 41Forever]

Ceetar wrote: The flip side of this is Harvey is well within his rights to not talk to the media if he doesn't want to and if the worst you get is a curse after you've literally asked him a half dozen times for a quote and ignored his request not to talk about it, well, big fucking deal. I mean, is it really that wrong for him to want to process the transition on his own without having to define it to reporters first? But you guys know I have little tolerance for the media game. Harvey's a douche, but we've known that. This changes nothing, means nothing, and is just filler content anyway. Sure, he could be nicer to the media. he could be a 'better person' or whatever, but his interactions with the media is literally 0% of what i need or want from him. Doubly so for the media countering with "oh, let's bug Nido about Harvey's appearance and then blame Harvey for us bugging Nido about Harvey". fuck off, that's making the news not reporting the news.

I'm going to disagree a little. Scott Boras must be banging his head against a wall as Harvey continues to hurt his value for next season.

Is Harvey within his rights to not speak to the media? Sure. But he has professional obligation to do so. But he also went beyond that, and it's neither smart nor professional.

Speaking with the media is part of the job when you play in a big market, especially New York. If he embraced them when he was the Dark Knight and things were going great, then he needs to at least answer some questions when things are not going great. That's what stand-up people do.

Given that there was a 100 percent chance he was going to be approached after his first relief appearance, Boras or the Mets should have coached him on how to answer the question. It doesn't have to be a great answer, but it has to be an answer. The one G-FAFIF suggested works fine. Repeat it, over and over. It's inconceivable that this did not happen -- but very possible that they did, and he ignored the advice.

Cussing out reporters takes away from the team's win and Bruce's big night. That's being a bad teammate.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Ceetar wrote: The flip side of this is Harvey is well within his rights to not talk to the media if he doesn't want to and if the worst you get is a curse after you've literally asked him a half dozen times for a quote and ignored his request not to talk about it, well, big fucking deal. I mean, is it really that wrong for him to want to process the transition on his own without having to define it to reporters first? But you guys know I have little tolerance for the media game. Harvey's a douche, but we've known that. This changes nothing, means nothing, and is just filler content anyway. Sure, he could be nicer to the media. he could be a 'better person' or whatever, but his interactions with the media is literally 0% of what i need or want from him. Doubly so for the media countering with "oh, let's bug Nido about Harvey's appearance and then blame Harvey for us bugging Nido about Harvey". fuck off, that's making the news not reporting the news.

Point taken, but my primary takeaway from this is, even as an adult who's attended his share of rodeo, Harvey lacked the self-awareness to mutter some platitudes. It behooved him to say something, even if something brief and meaningless. That he couldn't get out of his own way to do may not mean anything... but it sure doesn't mean something good.

[Fman99]

Where I'm from we call it "being a pissy pants."

[G-Fafif]

I certainly hope Matz handles his inevitable demotion more professionally.

[nymr83]

Maybe they try Matz as the lefty lacking in the bullpen?

[Centerfield]

Matt Harvey is a dickhead. JCL was right from the beginning. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt as long as I could, but seriously, fuck that guy.

It won’t happen but I would be fine with releasing him now.

[Edgy MD]

Here's the earliest I could find of my referring to Harvey as a douchebag: http://archives.thecranepool.net/19400/f1_t19477.shtml

You had him pegged earlier, when he showed up to his first camp in a Douchescalade.

Here's the happiest I've ever seen this guy:

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[Benjamin Grimm]

A CLUE! I wonder what Blue wants to do with a hospital gown? I'd better go get my handy-dandy notebook!

(I think this is how I responded the last time this photo was posted.)

[Guest 41Forever]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: A CLUE! I wonder what Blue wants to do with a hospital gown? I'd better go get my handy-dandy notebook! (I think this is how I responded the last time this photo was posted.)

Bad ass!

[Benjamin Grimm]

I was one of only two voters for "struggle and be released" and nothing since has changed my mind at all. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened within a week.

[Edgy MD]

Seems like, if this bullpenny thing is to continue, they should be looking at shorter stints.

[nymr83]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I was one of only two voters for "struggle and be released" and nothing since has changed my mind at all. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened within a week.

what is his option situation? he can't be sent down involuntarily can he?

[Edgy MD]

No, he can refuse an assignment.

If I was to go down, I'd insist on going to Binghamton instead of Las Vegas.

[nymr83]

because of the hitting environment in Vegas or because its Vegas?

[Edgy MD]

If I was Harvey, I'd want to stay out of the hitting environment of Vegas.

But yeah, if I was the Mets, I might want to keep him out of the Vegas environment of Vegas.

[Guest 41Forever]

Edgy MD wrote: No, he can refuse an assignment. If I was to go down, I'd insist on going to Binghamton instead of Las Vegas.

Better that he hang out with a positive influence like Tebow in Bingo than the temptations of Vegas.

[MFS62]

Dave Eiland, the "Pitching whisperer" should be screaming right about now.
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[batmagadanleadoff]

If it's Binghamton, Harvey and Tebow will probably go around singing Christmas carols door to door in their spare time and baking muffins for the local church. Yeah sure. Whats likelier to happen is that Tebow will end up mainlining heroin directly into his eyeballs.

The only reason Harvey's probably still a Met is because eff Wilpon is a cheap stupid fuck who doesn't get sunk costs. No team is gonna pick up Harvey's salary so if the Mets have to pay it, they're gonna get their money's worth. In the era of four and five man benches, that they're using up a 25 man roster spot on a mop up man should be a scandal.

[Benjamin Grimm]

John Harper is calling for Harvey's release in the Daily News today. He says that the Mets' reluctance to release Harvey is out of fear that the Yankees will pick him up and he'll be a star pitcher for them.

I don't think that's the reason at all. I agree that it's about the remaining millions of dollars on Harvey's salary. If they had asked for and heeded my advice, they would have non-tendered Harvey last winter.

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He says that the Mets' reluctance to release Harvey is out of fear that the Yankees will pick him up and he'll be a star pitcher for them.

Of course he would. They can score 15 runs a game to compensate for his suckitude.

Later

[Edgy MD]

It doesn't really cost them anything to release him.

You try to make things work until you don't.

[metirish]

To me he is done, I voted for released....not that I think it will happen but , can see him journeying around with the likes of Tamps Bay etc

[MFS62]

metirish wrote: To me he is done, I voted for released....not that I think it will happen but , can see him journeying around with the likes of Tamps Bay etc

Don't forget Minnesota.
Even Mike Pelfrey lasted three seasons with them.

Later

[Guest d'Kong76]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: John Harper is calling for Harvey's release in the Daily News today. He says that the Mets' reluctance to release Harvey is out of fear that the Yankees will pick him up and he'll be a star pitcher for them.

That's some coffee-spitting classic YLD tabloid fodder right there.

[nymr83]

41Forever wrote: No, he can refuse an assignment. If I was to go down, I'd insist on going to Binghamton instead of Las Vegas. Better that he hang out with a positive influence like Tebow in Bingo than the temptations of Vegas.

I love the trolling, Tebow homered recently, it was on ESPN!

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=23398264