This cannot go on much longer.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Well, the idea is that $75 mill invested poorly in one place means $75 mill not invested wisely in another place.

Spoken as if the Mets are on a Cincinnati budget. Which they are.

[Edgy MD]

No, it wasn't spoken that way at all.

[Guest 41Forever]

He doesn't strike me as a $25 million pitcher.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: No, it wasn't spoken that way at all.

It sure comes off that way. A major market team that spends like a major market team could absorb lotsa dead money. But not Cincinnati. I have no problem with the Mets passing on Arrieta if the Mets truly think he won't be as good as he needs to be to make the signing worthwhile. But I have an enormous problem with the Mets wanting Arrrieta but not being able to afford him. Of course, with the Mets, we'll never truly know what's what because everybody there is totally full of shit what with them having to cover up the magnitude of their financial woes every time tbey open their mouths.

Edited March 12, 2018 by Guest

[nymr83]

Edgy MD wrote: Well, the idea is that $75 mill invested poorly in one place means $75 mill not invested wisely in another place.

Sure, but every player is a risk and i'm saying i'd rather risk money as compared to risking years of commitment.

[Zvon]

To the Phillies!?!?!?!



GAH!

[ashie62]

Geez, the Phillies are going to scare me this season? GAK

[smg58]

So who's left? I wouldn't mind Greg Holland for the kind of price he's likely to get at this point.

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, somebody's got to get him, Brian Dozier, and Derek Holland on the same team sooner or later.

[Vic Sage]

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, somebody's got to get him, Brian Dozier, and Derek Holland on the same team sooner or later.

But then they'd have nowhere to run!

[Guest 41Forever]

Vic Sage wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, somebody's got to get him, Brian Dozier, and Derek Holland on the same team sooner or later. But then they'd have nowhere to run!

Bam! Nice one.

But they'd have a lot of hits!

[MFS62]

Alex Cobb to the O's - 4 year deal.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/bs-sp-orioles-cobb-0320-story.html

Later

[Mex17]

The only guys that I can think of who still needs a job, is coming a season where they legitimately provided value, and are not totally over the hill (at least not from the standpoint of a one year deal), are Melky Cabrera, Brandon Phillips, and Greg Holland.

Is there anyone else other than them?

[seawolf17]

If you move one of the outfielders to center, you could still make a team out of the guys on ESPN's list:

Carlos Ruiz C
Geovany Soto C
Mark Reynolds 1B
Michael Morse 1B
Brandon Phillips 2B
Stephen Drew SS
Mike Aviles SS
J.J. Hardy SS
Yunel Escobar 3B
Franklin Gutierrez LF
Jayson Werth LF
Melky Cabrera RF
Jose Bautista RF
Seth Smith RF
Andre Ethier RF
John Jaso RF
Matt Holliday DH

R.A. Dickey SP
Scott Feldman SP
Ubaldo Jimenez SP
John Lackey SP
Matt Garza SP
Joe Blanton RP
Jason Grilli RP
Greg Holland RP
Zach Putnam RP
Trevor Rosenthal RP
Drew Storen RP
Huston Street RP

[Guest 41Forever]

Some bigger names on there than I expected.

[Frayed Knot]

A few of those guys barely played in 2017 and/or were approaching the end of the line age/health-wise, but the biggest chunk of them were at least more or less full-timers last year

Mark Reynolds 1B = 520 AB
Brandon Phillips 2B - 572
J.J. Hardy SS - 254
Yunel Escobar 3B - 350
Jayson Werth LF - 289
Melky Cabrera RF - 238
Jose Bautista RF - 587
Seth Smith RF - 330
John Jaso RF - 256
Matt Holliday DH - 373

R.A. Dickey SP = 190 IP
Scott Feldman SP - 111
Ubaldo Jimenez SP = 142
John Lackey SP = 170
Matt Garza SP = 114

Joe Blanton RP = 51 Appearances
Greg Holland RP = 61
Trevor Rosenthal RP = 50
Drew Storen RP = 58

[Mex17]

Frayed Knot wrote: J.J. Hardy SS - .217/.255/.323/.578 slash line going into age 35 season Jayson Werth LF - .226/.322/.393/.715 going into age 39 Jose Bautista RF - .203/.308/.366/.674 going into age 37 John Jaso RF - .211/.328/.402/.730 going into age 34 Matt Holliday DH - .231/.316/.432/.748 going into age 38 R.A. Dickey SP - Still serviceable but going into age 43. . .might just want to stay at home at this point. Scott Feldman SP - 4.77 ERA/1.35 WHIP going into age 35 Ubaldo Jimenez SP - 6.81 ERA/1.59 WHIP going into age 34 John Lackey SP - Going into age 39. Still serviceable but same classification as Dickey. Matt Garza SP - 4.94 ERA/1.44 WHIP going into age 34 Joe Blanton RP - 5.68 ERA/1.48 WHIP going into age 37

I would say that all of the above are sufficiently on the trash heap (or gracefully retired) and you ought not to realistically expect them to be signed. In addition to Holland, Phillips, and Cabrera (who I mentioned earlier) I would think that Reynolds, Escobar, Seth Smith, and Rosenthal should still have major league jobs. I'm on the fence with regard to Storen.