Jay Bruce

[Edgy MD]

Jay Bruce has been (re-)signed for three years and $39 million. Tell us how you feel now to lend credibility to your feelings later.

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[HahnSolo]

Like. Particularly the terms.

Hopefully this isn't it, and there's more to come.

[Guest cooby]

Indifferent

[Ceetar]

nowhere near the best option.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Considering what the Phils paid for Carlos Santana Jay is a bargain.

I'm unhappy that it could mess up my Zimmo All-Star fantasy but we're better than yesterday. I also think it portends a future move as we still could use a real infielder

[Edgy MD]

I'm certainly upset with how it marginalizes Nimmo, but it provides depth at four positions, and considering the attrition of 2017, you've got to understand and accept that. Apart from burying Brandon and forcing Conforto to continue to pretend to play center, it's a hedge against Conforto not recovering, Smith not developing, or Céspedes crashing his Testarossa, any or all of which could happen by opening day.

I clicked "Dislike," but I could be persuaded to shift to neutral. What's wrong with me that my own poll isn't granular enough for me?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah I clicked "like" but wanted "like somewhat"

[smg58]

They still have bigger needs, but they got good value. As long as the bigger needs (pitching, second base, did I mention pitching?) are well addressed in time for the season I'm for it.

Like I said in the other thread, I'll worry about too much depth on the active roster when it actually happens. As it stands, the Mets can contend with the outfield they have.

[Benjamin Grimm]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah I clicked "like" but wanted "like somewhat"

Yeah, that's where I am. I'd rather have Jay Bruce than Nori Aoki, but not as much as JD Martinez.

I fear that before the three years are up, he'll go back to being the guy that they wish they could trade.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Too early to vote much higher than indifferent without knowing
what comes or doesn't come next. Like I said in the other thread,
and I haven't read anything today more about contract, it's quite
possible the Mets could be saddled with a a $20+ mil paycheck
in 2020 for someone who isn't playing. Again.

[dgwphotography]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah I clicked "like" but wanted "like somewhat"

Same here. I would like this a lot more if it was the first of many upcoming moves.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Edgy MD wrote: Tell us how you feel now to lend credibility to your feelings later.

Lending credibility is a bit much, no? I post crap at 11pm and change
my mind at 8am the following morning but it's still creditable. It's more
creditable that some guy/gal getting paid $80K citing unnamed sources
and spouting opinion-as-fact to the tri-state area under the guise of an
expert journalist or reporter because they have a press pass.

[Lefty Specialist]

dgwphotography wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah I clicked "like" but wanted "like somewhat" Same here. I would like this a lot more if it was the first of many upcoming moves.

Ditto. Right field wasn't the most pressing need. But it's a pretty team-friendly contract.

[Guest 86-Dreamer]

smg58 wrote: They still have bigger needs, but they got good value. As long as the bigger needs (pitching, second base, did I mention pitching?) are well addressed in time for the season I'm for it. Like I said in the other thread, I'll worry about too much depth on the active roster when it actually happens. As it stands, the Mets can contend with the outfield they have.

Ditto what smg said. i voted like.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Indifferent. In a vacuum, Jay Bruce is fine, should be a decent value even if he doesn't replicate his good 2017 season, and he makes them team a better than a Jay Bruce-less Mets team.

Big picture, I think we could've gotten a better fit somewhere, maybe a right-handed slugger OF/1B, maybe a real CF allowing us to put Conforto in RF, or an outlandish trade for a slugging infielder. I hope, but am doubtful, that more "big" moves are to follow. In the near-term dystopian future where the Mets have a DH position, I would have clicked "like".

[Centerfield]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Indifferent. In a vacuum, Jay Bruce is fine, should be a decent value even if he doesn't replicate his good 2017 season, and he makes them team a better than a Jay Bruce-less Mets team. Big picture, I think we could've gotten a better fit somewhere, maybe a right-handed slugger OF/1B, maybe a real CF allowing us to put Conforto in RF, or an outlandish trade for a slugging infielder. I hope, but am doubtful, that more "big" moves are to follow. In the near-term dystopian future where the Mets have a DH position, I would have clicked "like".

Agree with this, but I went with dislike. I would have picked slightly dislike if that were an option.

[Vic Sage]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Indifferent. In a vacuum, Jay Bruce is fine, should be a decent value even if he doesn't replicate his good 2017 season, and he makes them team a better than a Jay Bruce-less Mets team. Big picture, I think we could've gotten a better fit somewhere, maybe a right-handed slugger OF/1B, maybe a real CF allowing us to put Conforto in RF, or an outlandish trade for a slugging infielder. I hope, but am doubtful, that more "big" moves are to follow. In the near-term dystopian future where the Mets have a DH position, I would have clicked "like".

this. If this contract doesn't prevent Sandy from making other necessary moves, than ok i guess. but i have a feeling it may.

[nymr83]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah I clicked "like" but wanted "like somewhat"

Ditto.

I like it because I feel 3/39 is a good value for a player of Bruce's caliber in the FA market and he provides us a fair upgrade somewhere, even if we don't exactly at whose expense the PAs will come yet.

I like Nimmo too, as Edgy mentions, but for Nimmo to noy play often would mean a healthy Conforto and Cespedes, a performing Bruce, and a performing Smith. And Nikki can still face the lefties if any of the lefties above are showing again that they can't. That's a nice problem to have.

I didn't want jd Martinez's awful defense on a long term deal. The only superior option to me was Cain.

Yes, there are players I would rather have at 2b/3b/pitcher but this move doesn't in any way change those roster spots and I don't want to judge it based on Wilpons perceived budget.
If the Mets "can't afford" Neil Walker or Alex Cobb because of this deal then I say "fuck Wilpon" not "fuck this deal"

[RealityChuck]

I'm curious as to whether this has happened before: a team dumps an upcoming free agent for prospects and then re-signs him during the off-season.

[Frayed Knot]

Aroldis Chapman, Yanquis, just last year.

[nymr83]

RealityChuck wrote: I'm curious as to whether this has happened before: a team dumps an upcoming free agent for prospects and then re-signs him during the off-season.

Mike Bordick!

[Valadius]

I like it. Contract terms are fine. I have no faith in Nimmo suddenly finding a power stroke. One might think that 35 HR, 100 RBI guys are a dime a dozen until you remember that the last time the Mets had one of those was David Wright in 2010.

[Edgy MD]

d'Kong76 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Tell us how you feel now to lend credibility to your feelings later. Lending credibility is a bit much, no? I post crap at 11pm and change my mind at 8am the following morning but it's still creditable. It's more creditable that some guy/gal getting paid $80K citing unnamed sources and spouting opinion-as-fact to the tri-state area under the guise of an expert journalist or reporter because they have a press pass.

Journalists unite!

Hey, it's just loaned credibility. Besides, if you change your mind, these votes are editable! And possibly edible!

[Zvon]

Only like it.
Because it's the least the Coupons could do. To our owners: We have REAL needs u guyz!

Saw Coupons=Wilpons somewhere and it cracked me up. Probably read it here.

[Zvon]

Valadius wrote: I like it. Contract terms are fine. I have no faith in Nimmo suddenly finding a power stroke. One might think that 35 HR, 100 RBI guys are a dime a dozen until you remember that the last time the Mets had one of those was David Wright in 2010.

Wahowzers!

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I don't think anyone thinks Zimmo is going to develop real power. But there ought to be a place for a guy who gets on base a lot and hits a ton of doubles, which he can do.

I suspect Bruce is here to play first base, but I also thought that should have been the case when they first acquired him from the Reds.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Tell us how you feel now to lend credibility to your feelings later. Lending credibility is a bit much, no? I post crap at 11pm and change my mind at 8am the following morning but it's still creditable. It's more creditable that some guy/gal getting paid $80K citing unnamed sources and spouting opinion-as-fact to the tri-state area under the guise of an expert journalist or reporter because they have a press pass. Journalists unite! Hey, it's just loaned credibility. Besides, if you change your mind, these votes are editable! And possibly edible!

I'm increditable sometimes.

[metirish]

I voted "I like it", not the sexist of players but the Mets are hardly a destination team .

[Edgy MD]

RBI are a team stat. The best way to get a guy with 100 RBI is to find a good hitter and put someone like Nimmo in front of him.

[Ceetar]

Zvon wrote: Valadius wrote: I like it. Contract terms are fine. I have no faith in Nimmo suddenly finding a power stroke. One might think that 35 HR, 100 RBI guys are a dime a dozen until you remember that the last time the Mets had one of those was David Wright in 2010. Wahowzers!

counting stats.

Duda hit 30, then 27. 20 last year combined.


Cespedes hit 31 in 2016.


Literally 37 players hit 30 home runs last year. 89 hit 20. guys like Nomar Mazara and Tim Beckham and Tommy Pham.