iramets wrote: ]He was creamed. But they should have taken advantage of how good he was to trade him This isn't quite the contradiction you seem to think it is. He was a serviceable (you might say competent) back of the rotation starter. A contending team might well have use for such a guy, gambling if they could get a few good innings out of him, maybe they'll make the playoffs, and maybe even further. Not a terrible move for a team in the hunt. But the Mets in my view needed Leiter to be much more than serviceable, and even then they weren't really a post-season team. They were greedy, and the 2007 Mets are playing the price for their greed. Forgive me, please, if I use this platform to vent a bit. You did the exact same thing after 2005. You were all over the people on this board for thinking we shoulda got more for Cameron. Then a few weeks later you were all over management for not getting enough for Cameron.