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You better define "meaningful games" before you start bashing Arman---. Oops, wrong thread.

This New York fan from Connecticut agrees with that indifference. I have general contempt for fans from Philadelphia, which doesn't stem only from their baseball fans. But they are not worth feeling hatred or getting worked up over. _____________________________ This post had the designation 113) Carlos Baerga

I seem to be bashing people's sig lines a lot these days, but this: ]This team is more fun to watch in the winter than the summer. --soupcan, 11/28/05 is not true at all. Never has been really. I'll take losing baseball over the winter blues any day.

A player that signs as a free agent and then bashes his former team is a tired story.

Let Piazza come back. More than enough bats in the lineup.

Less power than you'd think � Root for the laundry Any Yankee free agent � Screwball Franco � He managed to take that single talent of hitting a baseball really hard, and make a decent 3-4 year career out of it. Canseco, Belle, even though they got more than 4 years � He could play anywhere but pitch and catch Super Joe! � Some stars fade away Mikey P � Other stars explode and drop out of the sky Doc and Darryl � He hit his career peak at 35 McGwire � Tough luck pitcher Al Leiter � Good two-strike hitter David Wright, Fonzie

Last year's bench was huge. Not sure what you didn't like.

Engaged or enraged? 42 voters in this poll. More than any parody.

]I think too much is made of this church and state thingMe too. SC was 100.

Yes! Got one vote for shut up! Right around when KC shows up on the blue bar! J/K, KC, hopefully you're in a good mood today.

Let's seperate church and state. No more God Bless America. No shedding his grace on thee. Stick with our ten minute national anthem that no one can sing correctly.

Why are you forced to stand up when speaking to a judge in a criminal courtroom? Or is that just BS from tv?

]"Nothing signals the arrival of summer more than watching Mets baseball and enjoying delicious Wise snacks." - Jeff Wilpon, June 2005 Now THAT'S a sig line.

Of course, that's putting a whole lotta stock in VORP. Not saying I agree or disagree, just pointing it out.

Not a single mention of Seaver or Doc, yet a fun read on a dreary winter day when hot stove is the only thing to talk about and every Met move was beaten to death within 5 minutes of completion (and some before they were consummated). Memorable games with lots of strikeouts I had forgotten Randy once wore an Astro uniform. I remember that Kerry Wood game, including a highlight of a lefty swinging at a curve that the catcher caught BEHIND AND TO THE RIGHT OF HIM. A former AA pitcher (not that that means anything, other than he has seen some filthy pitchers up close and personal---he was my all-time favorite baseball coach ever, stories of pitching to Fonzie ("He's sick") play and giving up a home run to Jordan despite being a good prospect who had his career derailed by an eye injury) who coached me agrees that this was the most amazing breaking stuff he'd seen. This remark amused me: "This is one of the six games the YES Network cycles through its programming schedule." OE: I forgot Jay Payton in that "What Met players do you worship" thead. _____________________________ This post had the designation 114) Jay Payton!

Press conference at 3.

Matsui's 2006 numbers: .315 BA, 45 doubles, 98 Runs scored (hits in front of the pitcher until the AS break, when he's moved up to second after a minor injury sidelines Beltran for 10 days. Matsui performs so well in that spot that the lineup is adjusted to leave him there and he also bats first on Reyes' days off).

With Wagner gone, the Phillies may look to Flash.

Oops. I read the numbers wrong. Thanks for the double check, LFK.

The hell with it...Pujols can play the outfield right? Let's get him too.

I disagree. The difference may be marginal in the regular season for an average team. A good bullpen with a solid anchor is what you need to get over the hump, and beat out the better teams in pennant races and playoff series. Delgado and the deep staff put the Mets on the hump, Wagner plus Heilman in the pen put the Mets over it. Remove Rivera and how many WS do the Yanks win? Not that Wagner is Rivera, but you see what I mean.

="old original jb"]The difference is still simple. The Mets organization and all true Mets fans hope that the Mets will field a competitive team, appear in the post season, and persevere to a World Series title. There will be true joy when and if the Mets win. Yankee fans (and some of those who run the Yankee organization) feel entitled to win. Each year, the World Series is theirs to lose, and if it doesn't happen rather than the sense of honestlhy pursuing and falling short of a hard goal to which no one should feel entitled, there is the sense of someone having dropped the ball. If they win, it is another day in the office. If they lose, it is "cover your ass and don't take any calls from Tampa." As a Mets fan, no matter how many top tier free agents we get, I know in my heart that no one is every entitled to anything in life except hope. I agree with the difference between Met fans and Yankee fans. But I'm wondering something slightly different. Does it bother you that the Mets are picking up all these guys? Is it okay to do so simply because you, as a fan, don't feel entitled to winning a WS?

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Vazquez must have been awfully frustrating for MFY fans. He'd pitch lights out for a few innings, then KABOOM. Seemed like he'd give up a 3-run homer in every start he made. Pitchers who consistently cough up the longball make me nervous. Like Pedro?

MFS62 wrote: Not until obnoxious fans with bad hair from New Jersey, wearing polyester warmup suits and gold Joey Botafuco starter kits around their necks, start showing up in droves at Shea Staduim. No one like that has EVER rooted for the Mets. Especially not in 1986. Forget the fans and the bandwagoners. There are plenty of silvers out there who root for the Yanks and are intelligent.

Hold the phone. I'm hoping not to get another thread that discusses deals and potential deals. Not to be a board Nazi but we have 18 threads like that. I want to know more how you feel about big spending and wheeling and dealing. Suppose Manny...(actually forget Manny, as JD noted he's discussed everywhere)...suppose a superstar FA could be signed or traded for right now who is unquestionably better than Milledge will ever be and is only in his early to mid twenties(ie a Pujols type) How would that make you feel? Maybe I should've left out that laundry question.