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Bad pic of Petey. He's not quite as cuddly in that one.

Liked it. 4 stars. I like movies where SPOILER SPACE major characters are killed.

Kaz, good luck in Japan next year. He'll probably hit .350.

Deserved.

In the beer polls I usually go with the pitcher if he has a good game. It's hard not too sometimes. Glavine for this one.

Sid??? I misremember that one.

These are so much easier to vote in.

Centerfield wrote: For instance, it's also important to wear your seat-belt...but to show someone who was seriously crippled as a result of neglecting to wear one is crossing the line. I think they've crossed that line with these commercials. That's an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. ]Secondly, they are insulting because I feel like the motivation behind these commercials is "People don't understand how dangerous smoking is, let's show them." Trust me, I know how dangerous it is. I don't need it blatantly waved in my face. The problem most smokers face is not that they don't want to quit, but that it is so difficult to do so. This is where I disagree slightly with you. Some smokers (or non-smokers) may not understand fully what all that fat looks like in your artery, or what a person who had his voice box removed has to go through on a daily basis. I agree with everything you said that also goes with this point though, the potential benefits of having it right there in your face do not make up for all of the other negatives that you mentioned. ]Personally, I have been struggling to quit for nearly a year now and it is the single-hardest thing I've ever tried to do. For about the last three years, I have managed to cut down to exactly one cigarette per day (right before I go to bed), but cutting out that last cigarette has been so much harder than I thought it would be. I quit for days at a time, sometimes weeks, and then go back again. It is a frustrating and disheartening process. And the commercials are no help. Thanks for being so candid CF. This is exactly what I was wondering.

Gotta go Pedro.

We can use this thread for counting. 1

Now THAT is an interesting topic. (SC = zero) Woulda made a fun, if easy, guessing game too.

Yup, the second....I don't think, as a one-time thing, that it was a big deal that he high fived the crowd. No apologies necessary. Edit: Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook

Should I really rephrase or are you just breaking balls?

Not that this will really answer 62's question but I'm curious: UMDB question: Have any pitchers recorded stolen bases?

I think there are two seperate issues here. One is, was it a big deal yesterday? I don't think so either. He did it cuz he got excited and all that. Two is, should it be a regular thing? I answer this one with an emphatic no.

Vic Sage wrote: That M&MD also approved of Milledge's gesture certainly gives me pause, but even blind pigs can find a truffle now and again. Actually Mike and Mike. M&MD won't be on until 1.

HahnSolo wrote: So Steve Kline wants to lecture us about what players should and should not do? Isn't this the bum who once flipped the bird at his own manager from the bullpen when he didn't get the call? So ignore Steve Kline because he gave LaRussa the bird. Cliff Floyd and Willie Randolph also said it shouldn't be done. Are you going to ignore their opinion because Steve Kline once gave LaRussa the finger? Seriously, what's your opinion on the issue, Steve Kline's antics aside?

seawolf17 wrote: But you know, those '86 Mets were awfully cocky too. And we know how that turned out. That turned out pretty terrible. Every non-Met fan hates that team. Darryl and Doc both went to rehab and jail, at least partly because they were taught to think they were the shit, to not listen to any veterans, and to think they could do whatever they wanted. And the team only one won f'ing championship. Cockiness is not really a good thing. Edit: Edgy beat me to it.

]He didn't rub it in anybody's face. He didn't stand there and admire his home run, then fling his bat and do a showboat trot. He didn't point at the pitcher. He didn't do a lot of things that might be considered showboating/ insulting to the other team or one of its players. He demonstrated some boyish enthusiasm by returning the love the fans in right field were showering on him. I don't understand why people think that high-fiving the crowd is different from all the other things that 62 mentions. I'll put the question to you that I posed to Nymr. If Bonds had done what Milledge did after the homer off Wagner, how would you have felt? How do you think Wagner would have felt? Nymr avoided the question entirely by saying it was okay for guys like Feliz and Milledge, but not for Bonds. IMHO, introducing a double standard answers the question. ="MFS62"]BTW- both Mikes on ESPN radio agreed with me this morning Having those two agree with me would make me rethink my position. I'm glad they're taking the view that opposes mine.

I want to point out that I don't think it's a big deal for Milledge. He was already apologetic after the game, Willie and some of the veterans are going to talk to him, and even the Giants seemed to chalk it up to youthful enthusiasm. I am arguing against the mentality that what he did is okay.

Running down the aisle high-fiving the fans is huge in the WWF, too. As much as PiazzaFan might like that, I think baseball and WWF should have as few similarities as possible.

MFS62 wrote: Willie told him that kind of behavior shouldn't be a regular thing. I wonder if he would have told Willie Mays not to play stickball with the neighborhood kids outside the Polo Grounds? I don't think it makes sense to compare Willie playing with the kids outside the park to what Milledge did.

Don't forget Andy's diving catch.

]On Sunday, Pujols told ESPN's Harold Reynolds that the Cardinals' medical staff told him that the injury might not keep him out past the 15 days that he is on the DL. On Saturday, Dr. George Paletta, the team's orthopedic consultant said that Pujols could be out as long as six weeks. Pujols also told Reynolds he was up and around and feeling better. There are very few rules in life that I follow without exception, but one that I do follow is "Never believe anything Harold Reynolds says. Ever."

Ah. Forgot the double-header. Good call Gweck.