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Frayed Knot wrote: Wow, videotape! And here I was thinking that Jesse's debut could have only been preserved in cave drawings. LMAO!

I see good 'ol Doug Flynn there. This really is neat. Savin the images to my Met image file. Thnx.

Ill go by whatever you guys set up. I dont need no stinkin Yahnkees Im not saying you should do this, but I found that stat wise including triples for batters and complete games for pitchers made it much more interesting because they were kinda rare occurances compared to other stats. And some weeks a complete game decided a tiebreaker situation catagory wise. Some weeks no one got a complete game. I found the more stats the more interesting it was. One of my leagues had minimal stats, just the biggys (like hits/homers/wins/Ks-no doubles or triples, innings pitched, shutout,etc) and it was okay, but not as exciting. Ill go with however its set up, but thats just some input from me.^

So we'll end up with either: Molina, Hernandez, DeLuca, or Hall. Omars ready to go either route, free agency or trade. Im happy with the way Omar runs the ship, so far. Very happy.

Spacemans Bong wrote: I had a Met dream last night. It was Jerry Seinfeld, batting for the Mets at Shea, in his one major league at-bat. He was in full accoutrement (long sleeved blue undershirt, blue gloves, everything) and he topped a grounder to third and ran about halfway before peeling back to the dugout. Apparently it was against the Yankees because Michael Kay was doing the play-by-play, although Jerry was rockin' it in some late 80s Mets unis. I love dreams. I dreamt you stop doin bongs and became an real astronaut. You had a G.I Joe type Gemini capsule with the plastic see thru sliding door (like the toy-Ebay it up). And when you went for your spacewalk your tether was an I-pod chord hooked up to your helmet. Couldnt hear what you were listenin to, but you were rockin too. And, oh yea,...it wasnt a NASA logo on your spacesuit. It was a Met logo.

I love that Naver Sports stuff,lol. I think they keep Willis for the gate every 5 days. They need some kind of draw.

Edgy DC wrote: Not quite as cool as a no-hitter, of course, but a lot of fun. They've had a lot of injuries and the season is about two weeks old. They're 7-5 without Cleon Jones. They're a fun team to play. They have one borderline outstanding hitter in Jones, one very good hitter in Agee, and one hitter who is very good if you spot him correctly in Clendenon. Most of the rest are a bunch of guys who are more or less OK if you spot them. And putting the right guys in the right spots is what managing is about, innit? It certainly is, Ollie. Take the team to the series and Ill start callin you Gil. Better yet, Mr. Hodges. I was wondering where Cleon was. I was about to hit the parking lot and search all the vans.

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I just saw Wagner interviewed on Philadelphia TV. He seemed to see the Thome trade as a loss for the Phils, not a gain. Says the Delgado deal shows that the Mets are really trying hard. I likeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey

Smart move by this new phils GM. A decent CF'r and frees up alotta $$$ in thier quest to keep Wags. Dagnab those pesky Phils.

lol.....I must be wierd. I enjoy reading your play by play of a sim game. Suppose I could be wierder tho...........

Im in. Ill try and get my brothers involved in one here, if we lack for teams. (we will probly always do our 4 team family one too)

seawolf17 wrote: The salary thing got a little screwy the first off-season. I set up a salary cap, just to see what would happen. The game offers you a 30-day signing period; each day, you can make whatever offers you want to make, then you process each day individually and guys make their choices. Apparently, everybody was selling tickets, because the following deals got signed: Barry Zito - LA - 7 years, $30 million per Jason Marquis - TEX - 4 years, $21 million per Alfonso Soriano - SF - 3 years, $17 million per Toby Hall - CHW - 3 years, $15 million per Kyle Farnsworth - MIN - 4 years, $13 million per Things got better last offseason, but Fake Me is eligible for free agency after this season, and apparently, I lowballed myself, because I'm refusing to sign an extension. So I'm going to have to wait and see how things play out this winter. I hear ya. Its funny how it is a lesson in whats involved in running a team in many ways. As well as a fantasy dream kinda baseball team. In my off season (2005/2006) my prize aquisitions were J.Santana (P) and Eric Gagne(RP). Gagne came in part with a deal for Piazza, who went back to L.A. Santana was great, Gagne was not so great. Traded Gagne pretty quick and Santana when his contract came up. He wanted too much $$$. The off season is as much fun as the season, cuz like in your game, you field offers and players consider them. (Im not to good at that cuz I like the team I have, and lowball the market- but you have to consider your minor league teams and shoring them up) There are also mini spring training games for pitchers and batters(novelty practice excersizes-like for batters the game says pull a fly ball or hit a grounder up the middle, and you have to execute that for attribute points) where you can work on improving individual players attributes. I had some very productive years and I ended up commanding more than Beltran makes when my contract came up. I was NL MVP in 2008, and only being 25 years old at the time (in my 4th MLB yr) I asked for 21 mill for three yrs. I ended up giving myself 20 mill for 7 yrs, to lock that salary in. Won another MVP award,made the NL AllStar team every year since. I had to pay me.:0 But I may have to move even me someday. Traded Floyd two seasons ago and hes been injured alot playing elsewhere. On ther DL twice this last season. Ive been tempted to move Beltran every year, just cuz of his salary, but I have refrained. Beltran has done very, very good, especially the last 2 years. His contract comes up next year, and I already have a centerfielder on the bench (I created a friend of mine and brought him up thru the minors) and a minor league CF (A.I. created) waiting in the wings, and odds are I will move Beltran to free up salary. My created buddy should be able to post similar numbers (I hope) and he's signed at 2.5 mill (based on his minor league yrs and attributes) for 5 yrs. Thats frees up moocho dinero and I hope to be able to buy the last two seating upgrades, going from a two tier 42,500 ballpark to a full blown four tier 65,000 plus stadium. I need 70 million for the last two seating upgrades(30 mil & 40 mil each). Seaver Stadium is lookin shweet. The only players left from my starting roster in 2005 are Beltran, Martinez (this is his last yr cuz his stamina has dropped from 98 to 73 last 3 yrs), Reyes and Wright. Reyes and Wright have been solid, making the starting NL AllStar team almost every year(You can play that game too).

seawolf17 wrote: I'm not so much into the historical aspect; I like to take a team and run with it -- make trades, sign free agents, stuff like that. Out Of The Park has a crazy detailed stat engine and a pretty complex financial/roster system, combined with good managerial gameplay. It's not graphically based; you can't play pitch by pitch and manually move the fielders around, but you make all the managerial decisions. It's the closest I've found to Front Page Sports: Baseball, which I LOVED until Sierra stopped supporting it. Glad to see I'm not the only one who likes creating himself; I created myself as a second baseman, but Matsui has actually been really good, so I slid myself over to first. (David Wright has started the 2007 season .208/.258/.376 through 149 AB. Ugly.) ..I started as a second baseman myself. Traded Matsui season one(2005) cuz i had to get myself in somewhere and I figured that was the weakest link. Cameron had a good year in right (30 hr 90+ RBI) but I had to move him for salary reasons in 2007. I moved to rightfield.

It also has old Hall of Fame players (just about everyone cept Rose) and old ballparks (from fenway before the green monster was built to the polo grounds to the Astrodome to the Vet to.......lots a old stadiums that are gonzo) that you can unlock and use as you play. I like the appeal of using the old teams on your game Edge.

Both games sound kool. Are they free deals or u buy em? I like baseball games even from a non graphic statistic or business standpoint. In this EA MVP BB, I own the Mets, I built a new Stadium (Seaver Stadium-you have to make $$$ to upgrade it as you go), you control and manage salaries and contract negotiations (player & staff), concessions,ballpark merchandise store, ticket prices, promotions, A,AA,& AA teams (as well as the MLB team),call-ups/send downs, trades, and a slew more of things. Players improve or decline in thier abilities as seasons pass, based on many factors, mostly age and performance. And you can sim a season or any part of it, 'manage' a game (where you get a quick play by play boxscore which happens before your eyes with a stat-tracker [fantasy baseball] type layout), or you can play the game out in stunningly detailed 3-d rendered graphics, with eveything from stealing homers in the field to breaking your bat at the plate. And you can create your own player (but be careful-the more talented you make him the more you will have to pay for his services). Ive been playing right field for the Mets for 5 years now.

heep wrote: I think Jeff and Omar are disgruntled that they could not buy Delgado last year. I was thinkin about this just this morning when reading the paper (about Wagner touring NY) and wondered if thats why there was no Mets/Delgado trade talk from the Mets. I was wondering if Omar was purposly looking elsewhere as a re-snub to Delgados snub. i was even gonna bring it up here. Then I get online to see if we might get Wags for turkeyday, and we got Delgado. Wondering ceased.

heep wrote: Ok. Rationalize this with me. Perfect example: Wagner's offer. Who determines this? Jeff or Minaya? I say both. But who ultimately has the final say? Stedman

I blame Stedman.

"Jacobs we hardly knew ye!" *Zvon sobs* Okay....(clears throat-UGHM-,wipes tear...) Im over it. Happy Thanksgiving to us. I bet this tilts the Wagner scales. We get that piece of the puzzle and then we see what kind of manager Randolf really is. I expect someday to see Jake Monster swat one in a crucial situation and think what could have been, but such is baseball. Three all-star infielders in 2006? Im one happy camper. I hope this takes rook 2baseman Anderson Hernandez and/or J.Seo off the table in that deal that was brewing for either catchers Paul Lo Duca (Fla.) or Toby Hall (Tampa) (read it in the NY Post yesterday)

whats the game? Ive played every baseball vid or sim I can get my hands on. My brothers and I played GIL HODGES PENNENT FEVER way,waaaaaay back (a dice baseball game) and then got into ALL-STAR BASEBALL(a game with disc cards and a spinner). Played whole seasons and kept scorebooks. Yep, we were that strange. But todays vid & PC games, like EA MVP Baseball-2005, are just phenominal. Of all the sports baseball has had the toughest time making the transition to video games. The game has so many nuances.

absolutely love these cartoon strips. We should create an exclusive Cranepool Forum/Mets comic strip. Everybody can write em. Ill draw em.

OlerudOwned wrote: ="SI Metman"]The #1 memory of Marlon was that inside the parker against the Halos.Greatest game I've ever been to You were at that game!? Lucky bastage. I was watchin at home and i jumped all over the room like a lunatic. Top season hi-lite in my book. Marlon certainly did his job, and then some. Guess he's up for good now.(MLB)

I missed ya bret. Glad your back, ya big wussy.

Enjoyable fluff. I like the pic they use for Glavine. Ha.......I mean,....ouch. And how dare they diss Queens. >_<