Mex17 wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: The problem with RBIs is that they're very team and lineup dependent; what team you're on at what time and where you hit in that lineup are all big factors. RBIs are, to some extent, an outcome based on one's circumstances rather than a measure of ability. I think that argument works better if all your numbers are up to par with the exception of RBI (such as in the case of Stanton his first few years I believe). Being presented with an opportunity (in the case, men on base) and what you do with that opportunity is a measure of ability, is it not? I think that it is. If you're exceptionally good at capitalizing on those opportunities, then yes, that is a measure of ability. But Loney is not exceptionally good. His career high in rbi's is 90, which he accomplished twice, in 2008 and 2009. In 2008, there were 491 runners on base when he batted. He drove in 77 of them, or 15.7%. In 2009, he drove in 77 of 480, or 17.1%. (He also hit 13 home runs each of those years, which is why the overall total is 90.) By comparison, last year Daniel Murphy drove in 59 out of 373, or 15.8%, which is also his percentage this year. In other words, James Loney, in a good year, is about as good as Daniel Murphy at driving in runners. No offense to Murphy, but that doesn't really seem what you want to be spending your free agent money on.