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Good luck, SI. Hey, you can wear your Mets hat, apparently, because The Supreme God Of All Knowledge (who knew God was a Red Sox fan!) has deemed that Yankee fans don't care about Mets fans. So you could go wearing a giant Mr. Met head, whistling "Gets Metsmerized," and you'd probably just be ignored.

I agree. I'd go, see if I could get a photo giving him rabbit ears behind his head.

I love these really stupid exercises in hypothetical bullshit sometimes, because there's no right answer. That's what discussion is all about. That's why you go to college. You're right, Bret, I didn't mention age; but you need to compare apples to apples. Maybe Pedro's an old 34; I say he's not, because he's still effective. If he was coming off a Kris Benson 2005, then maybe Willie's rope is shorter; but he's not. Either way, it's not a good premise to base your argument on.

You gotta kink it to the side, too.

Silver's right... that's just being a dick. I can't say there aren't Mets fans who are dicks. We have our fair share. My best friend is a Yankee fan; it's not really the general population that I dislike, just the obnoxious ones.

Yeah, Bret's right. Why should we hate anyone who acts like a childish, condescending ass towards us? Thanks for helping us see the light.

Bret, you're killing your own argument. Whitey Ford: Ralph Houk, a managers with a pretty solid career record, gave Ford seven starts in 1967. He went 2-4, yes, but his ERA was under 2, and his WHIP was 1.11. I'm assuming there was some sort of injury that ended his career; but either way, Ford was 38. Spahn: Got 30 starts in 1965, from Gil Hodges and Herman Franks. At age 44. Cuellar: Went 4-13 when Earl Weaver gave him 19 starts in 1976 at age 39. Bunning: Maybe. His 4-14 in '68 was in 26 starts; was an injury at play there? I don't know. Either way, he finished 13-10 with two teams the following season, with good peripherals. In 1970, he was 10-15 in a full season; in '71, 5-12 with 16 starts (and 13 relief appearances), at age 39. Carlton: Was in his 40s when his career fell apart, and bounced from team to team his last few years. Pedro: Is 34 this year, still a few years younger than all those guys. Had his best WHIP in '05 since '02, when he won 20 games. Had a 148 ERA+, which although not his best, was still fifth in the NL. Is the active major league leader in ERA, WHIP, and K/BB. I still don't see how letting Pedro work out his problems makes Willie Randolph a bad manager.

="Bret Sabermetric"]Here's the simple version (JD, avert your eyes!): Pedro is awful. How long do you let him be awful? How long does Willie go with an awful Pedro? Compare the two answers. 1) As long as necessary. 2) This question can't be answered, because it's never happened. He's managed one season, and this situation just hasn't come up. Rather than throwing a bizarre hypothetical out there and demanding that we defend it, show me situations where this has happened: ** HoF pitcher ** Falls off the table ** No discernible injury And show me how long they've stayed in the rotation. I don't have the time or the energy to do this research, but I don't think the question can be answered without any historical perspective.

If Pedro is that bad... I mean he's four starts in, and he's pitched 13 total innings... then they'll put him on the DL or something. They're not going to pull him out of the rotation. He's Pedro Freaking Martinez, not Scott Erickson.

Try Hardball Dollars. Looks like $97.99 million right now for '06, down from $109.33 million in '05.

Funny bit on WNBC4 this evening during the sports report. They played a short clip of Mets endorsing their choices for Grammys tonight. David Wright is a "big hip-hop fan," and loves Kanye West. The CG name underneath Wright on his clip said: DAVID WRIGHT Big Kanye West Fan Then Tom Glavine came on, babbling something inaudible about something, with the following CG name superimposed: TOM GLAVINE Kanye West Sounds Familiar Honestly, Ms. Wolf and I were laughing too hard to hear what Glavine had to say.

Opinion: Maybe if he peed in the field more often, Davey would have let him play shortstop. Bonus Opinion: Mr. Thomas should stay in the "Questions For Frank Thomas" thread and ignore this one completely. Speaking of large outfielders... Fact: Rusty Staub's restaurant closed a few years ago.

Um, would you please stop helping people? Brian Roberts is going to hit .380 with 180 RBI this season.

Bret Sabermetric wrote: "Staub was one fellow whom I absolutely figured out. He liked to pull the ball early in the count, then back off and go the other way with two strikes, anticipating breaking balls. So I would pitch him backwards, feeding him my sorry curveballs until he was set up, then blowing the ball by him inside. Worked every time." STRANGER TO THE GAME, p. 179 It's a quick study and a small sample size,and I might be off by an at-bat or two, but: Rusty Staub vs Bob Gibson 1973: 0-for-8 1974: 1-for-17, single 1975: 1-for-3, grand slam -- Bob Gibson retired that season. (Coincidence? I think not.)

="Johnny Dickshot"]The one time I met Rusty, I was a teenager at a sports banquet thing in New York. Among the things they gave away were packs of baseball cards. I opened mine and found a Rusty Staub "super vet" card. Mr. Baseball Cards to the rescue.

I just started rereading Keith Hernandez' "If At First...", the story of the '85 season. Keith relates the story of Rusty and Clint Hurdle jogging back and forth between left and right field, keeping Rusty in the opposite field. They won, so I s'pose it worked, but Rusty had to make a long running catch in right field anyway on a fly ball from pinch-hitter Rick Rhoden (batting for outfielder Doug Frobel). According to Mex, "Rusty 'fined' Davey five bucks for all that running." I don't think there was anything not to love about Rusty. Like Tug here and in Philly, Rusty was equally beloved here and in Montreal. edit: There were so many great things about that game. * Joe Sambito made his Mets debut, pitching the 7th. * Not only did Rhoden pinch hit, but so did pitcher Larry McWilliams. * Jerry Dybzinski played short for Pittsburgh in the 18th; it was his penultimate major league game. * Roger McDowell made his first major league start. He started again on May 4, and never started another game. * The Mets played the game under protest after Harry Wendelstedt called a balk on Keith Hernandez for charging the plate and then returning to first to take a pickoff throw in the 9th. * The Pirates almost won the game in the 9th, but Gary Carter threw out Rafael Belliard trying to score on an Orosco wild pitch to end the inning. * The Pirates almost won the game in the 10th, but Clint Hurdle threw out a lumbering George Hendrick at the plate from left field to end the inning. * After Straw's grand slam in the first, the Mets went hitless until Rafael Santana led off the 12th with a single.

Isn't this one of those deals where it's a live draft, but anyone who's not logged in just goes off their draft lists? That seems reasonably fair.

Plus, as anyone from the greater Rochester, NY area knows, this is Spikes. Not some stoopid deer.

Collusion! Collusion!

I like Option 3. A nice medium that will still allow for player movement without making rosters too thin.

Had to get me started on Michael Kay, didn't you? I don't even listen to that jagoff anymore. I'd rather listen to Mike Francesa drone on about horse racing than listen to Kay. Hell, I'd rather watch Francesa eat a rack of ribs than listen to Kay. You will not instigate me. Repeat -- you will not.

THANK YOU KASE! (and anyone else who helped!)

Okay, something is definitely screwed up here.

Twice! Twice we get a chance at a "Mets Get Abreu!!" thread, and both times we fail. We're losing our edge. I loved Jorge Toca; I was disappointed that he never became anything. He was a cult hero of ours in the Jorge Velandia mode. Maybe we just have a thing for Jorges. Although I never cared for Jorge Fabregas. I don't know.

Ah, yeah. Bring it.