LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Closing in on 400 home runs, and toting 162-game averages of .283/.361/.496, 28 HR/27 steals/100+ RBI and runs... which merely marks him as one of the more productive-- say, top 20-- offensive players of the last 15 or so years, maybe. Except none of the others played center field at all, much less at an elite, game-changing level (Griffey isn't at this level during the last decade-plus, since his all-world prime preceded the period we're talking about; besides, he's a surefire HOFer). Besides that, he's put up 293 steals and counting... as the most efficient basestealer in history. Put it this way, he's got a better case than Bernie Fucking Williams (and probably Andre Dawson and Jim Rice), and only a slightly worse case than Tim Raines. I've never thought of him as HOF material, but it's not a stretch. Certainly a better case than Bernie already, even with a few years left, and Dawson is his B-R closest comparison through age 34.