well, that's certainly true, and i haven't gone that deep into the analysis to figure it out. i would suggest that the hold stat should be amended such that coming in, allowing the tying run to reach base, and bequeathing that run to a subsequent pitcher should not be considered a hold. nor should coming in with the tying or go ahead run on base, adding another baserunner or two, and bequeathing those two or three baserunners to a subsequent pitcher should also not get you credit for a hold. but coming in with the tying or go ahead runner on base, getting an out, and bequeathing only those runners you inherited to a subsequent pitcher should still merit a hold. i should look in to how many times heilman has gotten a hold in which he contributed to the loss... on july 2nd, heilman came into a 7-5 game, and got through his first inning of work. the next inning, he hits hte first batter, and is relieved by feliciano. feliciano allows a homer, and heilman's runner scores. that's still legit enough hold, as the hit batter was not the tying run. the remainder of heilman's holds this season came in wins, so i didn't look at them. last year, on july 31, heilman came into a 2-1 game in the 8th inning. he allowed a leadoff single and got the next batter to fly out. again, he was relieved by feliciano, who hit the next batter and was relieved by mota. mota allowed a ground rule double in which heilman's runner scored the tying run. that fits my suggested definition of "not a hold" the remainder of heilman's holds came in met wins, so i didnt look at them. in 2006, on august 19th, heilman came into a 4-6 game in the 7th inning. the rockies had scored 4 runs against starter dave williams, but in the bottom of the 6th inning, the mets scored 6 runs themselves. heilman pitched two scoreless innings for the hold. he also was awarded a win. i thought i'd mention this 'cos it looked weird. on august 1st, heilman came into a 5-4 game in the 8th inning, and allowed no runs. wagner came in in the ninth and gave up two runs. this was a legit hold. on june 21, heilman came into a 5-4 game in the eight, allowed no runs, and saw wagner blow the save in the ninth. another legit hold. and finally on april 5, heilman came into a 4-3 game in the eighth, allowed no runs, and saw yet another billy wagner blown save. the remainder of his holds came in wins, so i didnt look at them. so, in three years, we have, what, five heilman holds in met losses, and only one of them, last year, was an illegitimate hold. i don't think his hold/save percentage is appreciably inflated by the peculiarities of the hold rule.