Ceetar wrote: These numbers are the norm. There are individuals that buck the trend of course, Syndergaard is one of the top..3? pitchers in baseball after all and Montero is on the other end of the spectrum. I don't know what rank either pitcher is. But if Syndergaard is anything like that good, I disagree that he should be averaging 6 1/3 innings every five games, with a 0.95 ERA. I wish this wasn't even controversial. And of course, limiting him to mostly the front half of games necessarily places him in fewer high-leverage situations. Ceetar wrote: But that's why he's generally mop up and it's Salas and Reed and Familia that will/should be taking the high leverage innings. And I'm arguing that he hasn't been generally mop-up, and this is the problem. Sixteen of 37 of the batters Montero has faced have been in high-leverage situations, and six have been in medium leverage situations. Ceetar wrote: This is why your best reliever should come into the highest leverage spot, not the highest numbered inning. Well sure. Again, this is uncontroversial, with me, anyhow, but when you pull your outstanding starters after six, and the other team is doing the same, you are tending to have multiple high-leverage spots, one after the other, eventually with increasingly less effective pitchers to do it in. Ceetar wrote: In a lot of cases, the very best pitcher to face Mike Trout in the 7th is the 'closer'. You're changing the argument here. I in no way disagree about the best pitcher being brought in earlier if the game is on the line. I think he should be kept in, too.