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Yup, Dr. Mike is our mutual teammate who tried to change pitching. He joined Ron on the 1970-1973 Expos and later finished his career enjoying Back-MANIA! with the strike-stricken 1981 Mets. Two guys remain: the destroyer of careers and the thread recidivist. Rusty Staub Keith Hernandez Mike Jorgensen Jim Dwyer Gary Carter Mike Marshall _______________ _______________

Sheesh Mets. Watch out. Al's biggest MLB moment was making a gave-saving catch while leaping over the bullpen wall, snagging a drive off the bat of Dick Williams. He fell into the bullpen and out of view, before emerging holding up the ball. I'd suspect he might not have actually held on to it, but stuffed it into his glove before standing back up (there were only 6,000 patrons to witness), but it looks like he landed in the Sox bullpen. They would have called him on that. But no video exists of the play.

Gary Carter is correct! If only kinda! Kid 8 debuted on the 1974 Expos on September 9, four days after Hunt was selected off waivers by the Cardinals. But I like to think Carter came up on September 1 and I also like to think Hunt shared a shower with the rookie at some point. Who wouldn't? That guy LOVED showering! [youtube:98dg3s14]hIIQULPkWnk[/youtube:98dg3s14] And from 1985 to 1988 he would become a regular showerer with Wally Backman. Probably the best part of Wally's day. Carter would make the All Star squad as (still) a rookie in 1975, splitting his time between the outfield and catcher, and his ASG debut was as a ninth-inning sub for Pete Rose, Making the game-ending out by corralling a fly off the bat of Rod Carew, securing the National League's annual win. Rusty Staub Keith Hernandez Mike Jorgensen Jim Dwyer Gary Carter _______________ _______________ _______________

seawolf17 wrote: Ellis Valentine? Ellis came up in 1975, a season after Hunty took his final bow. He did, however, have a brief-but-torrid relationship with Backman on the 1981-1982 Mets. Ellis, man. Had the best season of his career in 1980 and got dumped to the Mets for a reliever less than two months into the next season, and never put together more than two productive weeks in the rest of his career. Seemingly below market value though it was, Valentine for Reardon turned out to be a great trade for the Expos, but has cocaine ever been more associated with a such a dramatic career downturn? I mean, besides Harvey? Eight Ron Hunt/Wally Backman teammates: Rusty Staub Keith Hernandez Mike Jorgensen Jim Dwyer _______________ _______________ _______________ _______________

Jim Dwyer is indeed the last of those bullet points, having joined Hunt during those final 14 games for the Cardinals in 1974, and many years later crewed with Backman on the 1989 Twins. In between, he played 11 games for the 1976 Mets. He may have even worn a pillbox hat. You don't see a whole lot of careers like Jim's. Eighteen years, but only three times getting into as many as 100 games, peaking at 107. Eight Ron Hunt/Wally Backman teammates: Rusty Staub Keith Hernandez Mike Jorgensen Jim Dwyer _______________ _______________ _______________ _______________

Eight Ron Hunt/Wally Backman teammates: Rusty Staub Keith Hernandez Mike Joregensen _______________ _______________ _______________ _______________ _______________ Apart from our lefty-swinging firstbasemen, five Hunt-Backman bridges remain: [list:1d7ymo0k][*:1d7ymo0k]One destroyed a highly promising career.[/*:m:1d7ymo0k] [*:1d7ymo0k]One tried to reinvent pitching.[/*:m:1d7ymo0k] [*:1d7ymo0k]One has already appeared in this thread.[/*:m:1d7ymo0k] [*:1d7ymo0k]One appeared as Pete Rose's defensive replacement in his first All-Star Game and made the play for the last out.[/*:m:1d7ymo0k] [*:1d7ymo0k]The last played 18 years in the bigs and I can tell you almost nothing about him. He played for the Mets, but touched Hunt's career and Backman's during tenures with other teams. (He may deserve his own thread.)[/*:m:1d7ymo0k][/list:u:1d7ymo0k]

I'm at least a little uncomfortable with the jones for Cain. He's a good player, but I think it's fair to say that Nimmo is more likely than not to outperform him over the next three years. If you're going to get an outfielder, either aim higher for somebody who distinctly looks to outclass Nimmo or lower for one who complements him. Don't get somebody who will bury Nimmo without outplaying him. I can be sold on three years for Gomez. I can be sold on one year for Jarrod Dyson or Rajai Davis or somebody.

When you guys get the physics of the bombers figured out, I hope you can explain Leia's magic ride through space.

Remember Matt Winaker? Sure you do. No? Matt was the second of two Stanfordian corner outfielders taken by the Mets in last June's draft, following his fellow Cardinal Quinn Brodey. Quinn went in Round Three, and while he was celebrating, Matt called him to say he had gone in Round Five. And together they signed and reported to the Cyclones. Stocked, if not stacked, with outfielders, Brooklyn deployed Matt at first, and he put together one of the more puzzling seasons in recent memory. He walked like a fiend, garnering 15 walks in his 87 trips to the plate to go with his .268 batting average, adding up to a .402 on-base percentage. That should and would be encouraging to any minor league watcher, if not for the complete lack of power. I mean, it's like Felix Millan saw this kid and said, "Gosh, man, do a pushup or something." One extra base in 87 trips to the plate. ONE! I mean, you don't want to conclude much from 87 trips. Surely that will normalize some. And you get some quirks with a guy's first year swinging a wood bat, but ... ONE! YearAgeTmGPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBB201721Brooklyn21877110191003201511.268.402.282.6842011000 Matt co-stars in this informative article and video!

Yeah, the old 15-year rule got scrapped, and MM fell off after 10, trending downward over the course of his eligibility. 2007 23.5% 2008 23.6% 2009 21.9% 2010 23.7% 2011 19.8% 2012 19.5% 2013 16.9% 2014 11.0% 2015 10.0% 2016 12.3% He's missing out on the newfound tolerance those labeled as juicers, but who retired later, have found.

Is voting for a one-inning reliever OK?

I think that's his All-Star look. And hey, he was a 2017 All-Star! That's not nothing!

A name being bandied about. Plays second, plays third, hits at a consistent level that suggests the very soul of mediocrity, but may have some upside yet for the right team. Wears a fraying beard that suggests a bantamweight Dave Parker when the Bucs do throwback unis. Will steal a base or two but isn't what you'd call a basestealer. Will get a walk or two but isn't what you'd call an on-base guy. Ah, hell, I can think of four or five allegedly available secondbasemen I'd prefer, including Neil Walker. But Hairy has a $10+ million contract with two option years with buyouts. I can see him coming over in a deal along with the guy the Mets really want, perhaps McCutcheon or Cole. He'd be a Derek Bell in that sense. [fimg=500]https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/JqA9ZbcpDfDLI5fVmdiwVdCwTKg=/0x0:5336x3558/1200x800/filters:focal(2171x1462:3023x2314)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55668489/812159074.0.jpg[/fimg]

Keith Hernandez is an excellent answer, having more than a few mentioned Hunt being his first roommate, teaching him how to recover quickly from athletic trauma, despite playing only a dozen games with the 1974 Cards. Keith and Wally would rule the right side of the Mets infield for most of the 1983 to 1989 span.

Jorgensen is #2! He joined Backman on the lefty brigade for the 1980-1983 Metropolitans, having previously hunted with Hunt for the 1972-1974 Expositions. [fimg=250:3m7h16z6]https://montrealexposcards.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/281-mike-jorgensen.jpg[/fimg:3m7h16z6] [fimg=250:3m7h16z6]https://montrealexposcards.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/275-ron-hunt.jpg[/fimg:3m7h16z6] [fimg=250:3m7h16z6]http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/mike_jorgensen_autograph.jpg[/fimg:3m7h16z6] [fimg=250:3m7h16z6]http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Baseball/91/91-618Fr.jpg[/fimg:3m7h16z6]

Well, the article is a week old.

41Forever wrote: Is that Eddie with the Perfesser? Somebody had to look after Eddie when his father started courting Nanny.

Grabbing Willie Mays is like grabbing a moonbeam or an enchanted creature. The moment you do, you're paralyzed by the scandal of it all.

Check out the art nouveau design subtley inlaid into Clemente's lapels. That's five-tool form right there.

"So Carmen says to me, 'I don't care if the three of you are future Hall of Famers. This place has a classy asbestos acoustic tile ceiling with a loudspeaker embedded in it. I want to see you in evening ware.'"

The Rust Monster is one. He joined Ron Hunt on the 1971 Expos, and patted Wally Backman's ass on the 1981-1985 Mets.

Ron Hunt and Wally Backman enjoyed eight teammates. Eight! Name those teammates.

There we go! Bob hailed from Brooklyn, original home of his first organization, and retired to Houston, home of his second organization.

Nope, or else Oquendo coaching McEwing would have counted. We're looking for red-hot teammate-on-teammate action.

Roy McMillan joined rookie Bud Harrelson on the 1965 Mets, but he his time in the fifties was all as a Cincinnati Red. No teammate time with Pee Wee, except maybe on an All-Star team or two. Duke Snider and Pee Wee were core players for the Boys of Summer Dodgers from 1947 to 1958, but his lone year with the Mets was while Bud was still slapping the ball around Salinas.