metirish wrote: I have a vague memory of Peterson saying that Kazmir's mechanics were an elbow injury waiting to happen..........this may have been said a few years later though. I think it was commonly said that Peterson said that, but that's different from him actually saying that. And, yes, Kazmir was part of a whole contingent of NYM pitchers who were tested in Andrews bio-mechanics lab or whatever it was called. I recall Peterson saying (well after the fact) that no red flags were raised at that time and that he rarely if ever saw Kaz pitch after that. Of course, if red flags were raised it wouldn't be the sort of thing a team would announce. And, again, Peterson was the major league pitching coach at the time while Kazmir was mostly in A-ball. Peterson's main complaint, or suggestion if you will, was that very few pitchers had succeeded in the majors without at least 500 minor league innings and certainly not those from out of high school. Kazmir had around 200 minor league innings under his belt and just 4 starts above A-ball at the time of the trade. Whether his promotion by Tampa at age 20 and after just an additional 25 or so innings of minor league ball contributed to him not reaching his hoped-for potential and, in effect, being done as a useful pitcher by the age of 25 is conjecture, although I think most would agree that the track he was put on pretty neatly fits the description of being rushed unnecessarily. The Rays certainly weren't going anywhere in a hurry in 2004.