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More Mets managers: Dave Johnson Topps Update 1984 Randolph, as (haha) Stengel -- 2008 Topps Heritage Willie Randolph was also card #1 in a 2008 Topps special Mets team set. (same template as the regular 2008 set, but different image than the base set Randolph card) I couldn't find an image on the internet.

If the Yankees are being sincere when they say that they want to pay Jeter strictly as a player, then 3 x $15M is an exceedingly generous offer. I think that the Yankees have most of the leverage here. The few other teams that can afford to top the Yankees 3x15M offer would be crazy to do so. What's Jeter gonna do?

Looking at the checklist for 2011 Topps Heritage -- which will use the 1962 design -- Topps did a cool thing. They've tried, with their Heritage sets, to parallel the original set. If the card numbers hold when the set is released next year, they'll have done a nice job: 7 Beltran (in the 1962 set, Frank Thomas was card 7) 26 Thole (Cannizzaro) 29 Mets Manager (Casey) 85 Ike (Gil) 94 Dickey (Hook) 181 Gee 183 Pelf (Craig) 213 Pagan (Ashburn) 256 Tejada (Chacon) 290 Niese (Bob Miller) 333 DUda 421 KRod (Ken MacKenzie) 436 Reyes (Mantilla) 464 Santana (Al Jackson) 478 Wright (Zimmer, who was pictured as a Met but listed as a Cub) and they'll have cards for Takahashi, Mejia, and Nickeas, although the numbering got weird on the file I saw. No 1962 number parallels for Gee/Duda (those numbers were guys on other teams), but that's well done. #392 will be a David Wright NL Sporting News All-Star Card. original '62 #392

Oh wait. Named after a song NOT in the film. That disqualifies Pepper. And prolly An American in Paris. But Murder, He Says still stays. Ha! Now I owe you one. Jimmy Page stole Dazed from Jake Holmes, an opening act for the Yardbirds. Holmes never bothered to sue.

HahnSolo wrote: Two things I would like to add: �It�s tough,� Halladay said. �Felix�s numbers are very, very impressive, but ultimately they look at how guys are able to win games. Who is "they" Roy? Actually, and thankfully, they don't, if the last two years' voting is an indication. "Who is 'they' Roy?" is right. Who? Because Hernandez won the award in a landslide. Yesterday was a great day for baseball.

metsmarathon wrote: discuss. You had it right in the "head explodes" thread. The MVP is the best player. The best player is the MVP. That's how I'd vote if I had one.

Oh wait. Named after a song NOT in the film. That disqualifies Pepper. And prolly An American in Paris. But Murder, He Says still stays.

Ashie62 wrote: It seems to me in my youth the guy with the most wins usually got the award. Ron Bryant won in 1973 with 24 wins and not much else. Ron Bryant won the Cy Young Award in 1973? On this forum, that's sacrilege. (Now my head's gonna explode).

Edgy DC wrote: It's not like he was tearing the league apart on the road either, so who knows? SplitGPAHRBAOBPSLGOPSHome441863.277.371.459.830Away512153.243.326.354.680 David Wright didn't rake on the road in 2009, either. That's the theory. That, quite possibly, in two seasons, Cit Field has thoroughly demoralized two stars to the point that they were taken out of their game -- home and road.

Murder, He Says. (1942, Betty Hutton) Murder, He Says (1945, starring Fred MacMurray)

Vic Sage wrote: Citifield hurts certain XBH (hr) and helps others (2b,3b). Marlins stadium isnt exactly a launching pad either and a 2bman with nearly a .900 OPS over 5 full seasons there can botch grounders for me anytime. And, frankly, he's not that bad a glove. The fact that Altanta got him for a UT coming off a career year and a young LHRP with more BB than IP is a great get for them, and just made our division that much tougher. Oh, well. Turner / Murphy will be just as good (yeah, right). All great points, to be sure. But then again, entering last season, Jason Bay was one the game's best half dozen or so home run hitters, by any measure. And as a Met -- a Citi Field Met -- he played like a shell of his former self. So who knows just precisely how harsh CF is on home runs. I'd still want Uggla, though, notwithstanding Fman's comments. You need to hit HR's on the road, CF or no CF. It's music to my ears when I hear a manager willing to sacrifice defense for a lot of offense. Uggla may be a below average 2b-man, but we're not talking Hundley in LF bad.

In the future, there will be flying cars.

Vic Sage wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'd like Dan Uggla. I liked Kevin Mitchell at short. And Melvin Mora. You can't win if you don't put runs on the board. batmags / sage similarity score = 98.634 I figure that if the Braves wanted Uggla, he must be worth having. So there's some validation for us. Though Fman makes the nifty point that in Citi Field, Uggla would likely remind us of Kelvin Chapman with the stick. And we'd be stuck with his iron mitt.

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: Besides, I feel like the area basically has to close whenever it rains or snows. Those potholes fill up to be basically lakes. I wouldn't drive there. Would you like it if the government confiscated your land from you because there was a big pothole in front of it? If they made it worth my while to go elsewhere? possibly.. In this economy, a project like this has to generate a decent amount of jobs, and the businesses that will take their place will generate a lot more jobs too. That has to have value as well. Now there's an idea -- justifying eminent domain because the ensuing demolition tear-down and build-up will create more construction jobs. How come I never thought of that?

Edgy DC wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: You say victories. I say pitching. Must be a generation gap. There we go. And they got around to putting those numbers on the front by then also. When I was a kid, kids were kids. We had to figure things out for ourselves. We had to flip over the baseball cards --and with our bare hands-- to determine that Topps meant "Wins" when they wrote "Pitching". Your generation had everything spoon fed.

The Second Spitter wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: You can't win if you don't put runs on the board. Joe Morgan's hacked batmags' account. Morgan's got nothing on me. Other than two MVP's and a plaque with his name on it in Cooperstown. Nothing. I'd bet anything that today, I beat him in a foot race. I'll even give him a headstart. Nothing. What the hell is a VORP? Can you eat it?

Ceetar wrote: Besides, I feel like the area basically has to close whenever it rains or snows. Those potholes fill up to be basically lakes. I wouldn't drive there. Would you like it if the government confiscated your land from you because there was a big pothole in front of it?

Edgy DC wrote: It's certainly clear that's what the card meant because the other two cards represented the other two jewels in the pitching triple crown. Still, though, from my recall of the conventions of the time, I'd expect the card to say Victories Leaders. Though equating credited victories as synonymous with pitching excellence? Joe Morgan would approve. I was being facetious. ("Didn't anybody here ever collect baseball cards"?) You say victories. I say pitching. Must be a generation gap.

Thanks to this thread, I first noticed that Bouchee ('62) was photographed in the Polo Grounds. Also, after posting the Seaver ('72) in action last night, I finally figured out why he's cracking up like that, doubled over in laughter. It's Family Day at Shea. (roped barrier in the outfield) Check out Seaver's comically enlarged glove.

The next installment: No. 37 Topps rarely added coaches to the manager cards, and it was nice to see Rube Walker, Roy McMillin, Eddie Yost and Joe Pignatano getting some recognition in the 1973 and 1974 sets. Ever see this Yogi "73"?

Of course it's "Wins". Didn't anybody here ever collect baseball cards?

I hope they build a McDonald's. We could use a couple more banks, too. And two cell phone stores.

Topps recognizes Tom Seaver's best statistical season ever (1971) by honoring the star pitcher with six cards in its '72 set: