Edgy DC wrote: I agree. If your GM is putting a player on your roster, and your manager is openly saying "I am not using this guy," then every game you lose, you're wasting that spot. That was the most frustrating thing for me with the Ollie/Warthen/Omar/Jerry demographic. If the guy's on your roster, you need to find a way for him (and your team) to be successful. If not, then something needs to give. Either the GM needs to get rid of the player, or if he feels that the player can still contribute, the manager/pitching coach. That's my contention. That it was Minaya's place to (a) release Perez, ( compell Manuel to use him, or © replace Manuel with someone willing to do his lord's will. Manuel's stupid doghouse sucked. Perez's spot on the roster was unjustifiable. Manuel appeared to have agreed with you and Minaya not, and I think that was the team's real problem. OE: I suppoe Minaya's superiors could have stripped him of the power to act against either Perez or Manuel. Whatever. But you're digressing. Because the issue you initially raised, I thought, was not what Minaya ought to have done but whether Perez's roster spot was justified.