batmagadanleadoff wrote: There's very little of that here. Please provide examples. Bullshit. What for? Because any time you say that "you and a couple others here" believe something, you should be able to say who. But I'll do it for you. ceetar absolutely believes that $30-$50 million extra in available payroll is pointless. He has fought me about this constantly. Mets Guy in Michigan believes that you. It comes across in his post earlier in this thread: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: But it's not the Titanic if they are in first place in mid-August and ... Other than that, I don't see anyone else falling into this camp. For what it's worth, I think most people here agree with batmagadan. Being in first place is great, but the Wilpons are still terrible. Having a NY team with a bottom third payroll is unacceptable, regardless of your place in the standings. It's great that the Mets are in first. And it's great to have a great rotation all under control for the next several years. But as a large market team, they should also be able to spend a boatload of money on established talent that takes this team from being competitive, to dominant. Asking anything less from your owners is to let them off the hook. The counter-arguments about money poorly spent are distractors and irrelevant. No one here is advocating that the additional money be spent poorly. As far as I know, there is no requirement attaching the extra money to poor decisions. What batmags, and Vic, and many others here want is for the Mets do everything that they have done to maximize their resources, and also have at their disposal, the financial capability of a big market team.