Vic Sage wrote: This is all rather depressing as a Met fan. The one thing I would say about your criteria (and this doesn't affect the Mets) is that I don't think the Royals, White Sox, and Astros would trade their championships for the results of say the Reds and Pirates. I would add the Marlins to this but f&$k the Marlins. That depends on the context you apply to the comparisons. The Reds had 2 different periods of sustained success since 1969: 1970-79 (with 6 playoffs and 2 WS wins in a 10-year period) and 1997-03 (with 3 playoffs in 4 years), with another WS title in 1990 and a playoff in 95. That's 11 years worth of playoffs and 3 WS championships since 1970. As a fan, I'd take that in a heartbeat over the Sox's 5 post-season games (1 WS) during the same period, with no periods of sustained success, unless you count the 3 post-seasons (with 1 WS) in the 9 years from 2000-08. That's 8 post-seasons +2WS. As for the Pirates, like the Reds, they too had 2 strong periods of success: 1970-79 (with 7 playoffs and 3 WS wins over 10 years) and later, 2013-15, with 3 straight playoffs, and 2 other playoff years in between (91-92), for a total of 12 playoff years and 3 titles, surpassing both the Reds and the Sox. As for the Royals, they had a great run from 1976-85 (7 playoffs, 1 WS, over 10 years), but they couldn't sustain success in 2013-14 (2 playoffs, 1 WS), for a total of 9 playoffs and 2 WS. Houston has had 2 (maybe 3) successful periods, from 1980-86 (3 playoffs over 6 years), 1997-05 (6 playoffs on 9 years), and their current streak since 2015, which (if you include this year) will be 3 playoffs in 4 years (1 WS). Their total is 12 playoffs and 1 WS, but they're in the middle of a run so who knows how long that will go? Florida has the 2 WS titles (1997, 2003), but no sustained periods of success, and those have been their only post-seasons in the 25 years of their existence. I would trade that track record for any of the other teams. To be clear, my comment on the Royals, CWS, and Astros was based on Centerfield's original parameters of 2000-2017. I do realize that I forgot about the Reds championship from 1990.