Gwreck

Frayed Knot wrote: Ways to avoid this in the future: - don't get shut out for the first 8 innings have have to depend on a run via a short FO w/a slow runner on 3rd That's all fine, well, and good but not at all a practical assessment. Of course the solution to everything is “score more runs” but even teams that have the very best offensive production sometimes have 1-0 games too. When I got back from the game and reviewed the broadcast more, I was struck by how clear it was that Alonso “beat the throw” and was over the plate well before a tag was applied. It took quite the zooming in and slo-mo to confirm that his hand came up and that wasn't an angle the umpire was positioned to see. In short, the umpire made a dubious out call to begin with, and that too is a problem. As Darling aptly pointed out on the broadcast, had the original call been safe, that too would have stood. As for the description the replay office gave: (1) there's no reason they can't give that in the moment - and in fact, should be required to do so; and (2) that is directly contradicted by the memo Mendoza referenced (and which circulated last night on social media) - a catcher's initial setup cannot be with a foot on the plate sans ball.

Frayed Knot wrote: =Centerfield post_id=153974 time=1714614783 user_id=65] I'm guessing the bench was empty? It was.

MLB absolutely needs to have an in-stadium explanation. It's a total disservice to the fans. 1. The catcher was set up on the plate without the ball. Everybody saw it. So explain why you “confirmed” that call notwithstanding the video. 2. You have to explain what you saw. “The video shows the runner's hand was over the plate but did not actually confirm whether he physically touched the plate before being tagged, therefore we are letting the call stand.”

Carlos sticking to his opinion in the press conference and not saying "oh well, it's one play" raises my opinion of him. 1000% agree.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Bader is an idiot This is the second (third?) time he's been thrown out like a moron stretching a single.

Edgy MD wrote: I just realized how pleased I am that MLB thought to schedule this in June, rather than at the top of the season, when London would likely be chilly and rainy. Fair, but also it's more a function of money. Nice weather = people paying. I sure wouldn't be going if it was in April. Edgy MD wrote: It strikes me that they might have ameliorated some of the travel issue by scheduling it adjacent to the All-Star Break, especially now that the break is four days long. Agreed in theory, but that 4-day break is particularly favored by the players and unlikely to be allowed to be impinged upon with international travel.

More likely that summer Saturday afternoons are some of the very nicest times in Seattle and they get better attendance in the evening as a result.

Late starts on the West Coast are inevitable and those Saturday evening start times are perfectly normal for LA or Seattle. No basis for complaint there. The fact that the Mets have only 9 home games AND two West Coast road trips in August, however, is pretty crappy. I do recall there was discussion a few year back that there were teams, including the Mets, that advocated for longer road trips (hence the three-city West-coast trips) versus more trips out West. But maybe not putting them in the same month?

Billy, running away. At least his crimes were in service of helping the team win. Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Love how Brodie has no obvious crimes but is still impossible to select Cano is still pretty obvious to me…

I wish the Mets would have offered him that.

Glavine, Alomar, and Piazza. 2003 and 2005 were the only seasons in which there were 3 HOFers active for the Mets at the same time (and Glavine/Martinez never played in a game at the same time). This answer could change with the election of Wagner and/or Beltran.

Among other things (I don't particularly like him), his HOF plaque spells out pretty clearly that he's honored as a manager. https://images.app.goo.gl/JZ8fJuxsU8xoU3tY8https://images.app.goo.gl/JZ8fJuxsU8xoU3tY8

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Using the database that I have at my disposal, I've confirmed that the record is indeed six, and it's happened 11 times. I don't want to spoil the quiz here, so I've buried the answers in a different thread: https://phpbb3.leaptoad.com/mets/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33033https://phpbb3.leaptoad.com/mets/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33033 Peek only if you're ready! Thanks! I wouldn't count Torre (not a HOF player). Also apparently overlooked that Ashburn was in the HOF/a Met in ‘62.

All answers heretofore correct (with Perez). Answering a question: Seaver and Ryan did appear in some games together (not many) and I did not identify any against a HOF-laden opponent such as the Mays/McCovey/Marichal Giants or the Cepeda/Brock/Gibson Cardinals.

Pete Rose: not in HOF.

What is the highest number of Hall of Famers who have played (for either team) in a single Mets game? I've successfully identified three instances of 6 players, and several with 5 each. Additional contributions welcome. Can you name the HOF players who played in these games? One game per guess please. 6: April 25, 1963: Mets at Cubs May 4, 1963: Giants at Mets May 16, 1964: Mets at Giants 5: April 20, 1963: Braves at Mets August 15, 1970: Mets at Braves June 8, 1972; June 18, 1972; May 2, 1973; October 10, 1973: Reds at Mets (same 5 HOFers in all 4 games) October 16, 1973: Athletics at Mets April 5, 1983: Phillies at Mets Possible additions to the list soon (Beltre, Wagner) April 22, 2003: Astros at Mets May 8, 2003: Dodgers at Mets August 24, 2003: Mets at Dodgers May 20, 2006: Yankees at Mets

April and May: makes total sense. July/August: not really.

This may have flown under the radar (or I missed it) but the Mets appear to have eliminated Saturday night home games. Every Saturday home game is showing a 1:40 or 4:10 PM start time.

Interesting thread. It seems very early to know what to make of Cohen, given that he's only owned the team for 3 years. In terms of a “plan,” it seems quite clear that Stearns has been/is the plan, and thus it's way too soon to know how that will turn out. I'm quite pleased that the Mets were able to sign Lindor, Nimmo, and Diaz without also foregoing the wherewithal to add additional pieces. Some other corrections/observations: The expanded number retirements is a Wilpon initiative. The Koosman retirement, as well as the plan to “catch-up” on other numbers was announced by the Wilpons in 2019. Steve certainly couldn't have rescinded Koosman's honor. Maybe he could have cut it off thereafter…but that's only partially his fault. Frayed Knot wrote: the Mondo Scoreboard: OK, fine. But it's really just another reflection of ‘Watch me Spend'. Showy, but not an improvement on the field which means it can be seen as a distraction from the lack of improvement on the field. I don't know about you, but I've never been distracted by from the team's performance by a scoreboard. That said, have you been to Citi Field since it's been put in? I'm a regular attendee there and can confidently state it's the single best improvement to the facilities since the building opened. And now apparently we're going to have dancing girls [on the dugouts? in the on-deck circles? with the grounds crew?] Wtf? This is a joke, right?

Whatever. Hope he's terrible.

=bmfc1 post_id=142425 time=1701951947 user_id=73] Let's be happy he's in the AL and hope that he doesn't sign a new contract before FA starts again.

Gwreck Ballot: Yes: Carlos Beltran Adrian Beltre Todd Helton Andruw Jones Joe Mauer Gary Sheffield Billy Wagner No: David Wright (regrettably) Abreu Pettitte Buehrle Alex Rodriguez Ramirez Utley Everyone else on the ballot is below this level (eg. not seriously considered).

The only reason to trade prospects for Soto now (rather than waiting a year) is that he's the difference between playoffs/not playoffs in 2024. There seems to be no expectation that Soto won't test the free agent market next season.

I appreciate his honesty. Ottavino was a favorite player and it'd be a shame to lose him.

Ottavino declined his option for 2024 with the Mets and is a free agent.