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Per ESPN: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29406217/31-mlb-players-positive-coronavirus-first-round-testshttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29406217/31-mlb-players-positive-coronavirus-first-round-tests Thirty-one players were positive for COVID-19 in Major League Baseball's first round of coronavirus testing, the league and players' union announced Friday. Seven staff members also tested positive. The 38 positives represent 1.2% of 3,185 samples collected for the first set of results. For comparison, the NBA on June 26 reported a 5.3% rate of positive tests (16 of 302) among players, while MLS announced a positive rate of 2.7% (18 of 668) among players two days later. that is not nearly as many as I would have expected. Makes you wonder what those NBA players were up to.

This was also pre-Madoff. Couldn't the Wilpon's have just added 5 million to the payroll with deferring anything?

Fuck Campbell, he cant steal Doug Mientkiewicz's nickname.

Doc "wins" on the innings, but Pedro was better per batter

At least one player will be getting paid in full this season!

=Fman99 post_id=39638 time=1593567534 user_id=86] Sad as hell about this, living in the home town of the next-to-best-thing-to-MLB Mets and all.

What does that mean though? likely just that they managed rich guy financial shenanigans such that the particular asset involved is "distressed" and all of the Mets and Wilpons other money is insulated from being attacked by the creditor here.

Yeah, covid may just wipe the game out before it starts anyway. Then the owners AND union walk away with a black eye here.

=smg58 post_id=38900 time=1592484895 user_id=62] Of course, the presence or absence of a DH will have zero bearing on a team's overall payroll. So you give up the DH in exchange for 20 more games, and baseball is saved from Manfred for another year.

I dont know. If I was him I'd take a long hard look at the idea of getting under contract and rehabbing under the eyes of major League doctors. Will there even be college baseball next spring? And with Tommy John would he even pitch at all? The minor league season if there is one goes several months longer to where he could pitch off a mound in a game in 15 months after surgery. Whats the draft stock look like if nobody has seen him for another year?

=Ceetar post_id=38489 time=1591756212 user_id=102] sure but they have to walk past each other. at best it'd be row per group and then skip a row. but still probably with concessions closed. and then you're still all walking in/out the same exits. I mean, it's doable in certain situations and states are opening up anyway because actually providing support for people is too foreign for them, so they'll probably with some suitable half-assed approach.

Whichever one of his parents is 'Armstrong' he just needs to sit down with and say "listen mom/dad, we're going to sell a lot of merchandise here, I'm going with 'Crow' on the jersey"

Not only is he incompetent, but he's a sneak: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-accuses-ngel-hern-ndez-200536181.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-accuses-ngel-hern-ndez-200536181.html And then he lies about it. Later Worst umpire ever.

=Ceetar post_id=38374 time=1591646806 user_id=102] fyi, Blackstone owns 13% of the YES Network.

I think we nailed the problem? Who lets their kids become Yankees fans? Of course they are "making trouble"! Raise your kids to be Mets fans and they'll lose that sense of entitlement.

Another problem with a lost 2020 season: Whose hall of fame chances get wrecked by a losing a season they really needed? deGrom's only real shot given how late he started his career would have been the 'Koufax route' - being the best pitcher in the game for 5 straight years with a little bit around it. a 3rd straight CY Young was almost a necessity for those slim hopes.

=ashie62 post_id=37887 time=1591246716 user_id=90] I'm all in on Korean baseball, fuck MLB

Then the next year, they made a mockery of our team by putting a celebrity on it to sell more tickets. I saw players lose their jobs because of it. We weren't playing to win, we were playing to make everyone else money. Not the players. We never saw a cut. Well, allegedly that one player did. I think a person can argue they made a mockery of the team when they named it "Rumble Ponies." There is not even an argument there...

The part cut off at the bottom of the left side continues to say that he believes that the "celebrity" put on the team to sell tickets actually got a cut of those increased ticket sales. And, while that person got paid, others lost their jobs. Then the next year, they made a mockery of our team by putting a celebrity on it to sell more tickets. I saw players lose their jobs because of it. We weren't playing to win, we were playing to make everyone else money. Not the players. We never saw a cut. Well, allegedly that one player did. https://sports.yahoo.com/former-mets-minor-leaguer-describes-055404834.htmlhttps://sports.yahoo.com/former-mets-minor-leaguer-describes-055404834.html Later Andrew was a second round pick, so he presumably got a nice hefty signing bonus. He begrudges Tebow getting paid too. If Tebow did negotiate some extra $$ in his contract, well, good for him, why shouldnt he?

I don't agree. NOT playing games is the worst possible outcome for everyone involved - fans, players, owners, non-player employees, broadcast partners, everyone. Who benefits for not playing at all?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=37776 time=1591077706 user_id=68] FiveThirtyEight.com concludes that the owners are full of shit. It's upshot is that the owners are putting out misleading numbers designed to give them the same revenue stream and profits that they would receive in a normal season while asking the players to take pandemic-related huge salary cuts.

Edgy MD wrote: New York State Supreme Court Judge throws out Dykstra's lawsuit and https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29251243/lenny-dykstra-cited-suit-vs-former-mets-teammate-ron-darling-dismissed?fbclid=IwAR1usac0CM870tf_N7hc-tqvA8YluUdCS5odIAkBBiKYwslL1jAnQdwFBDMthrows it out hard. that is awesome. i always love seeing judges throw horseshit cases right out the door.

Frayed Knot wrote: Joel Sherman had a good column on ... April Fools Day was 2 months ago.

Frayed Knot wrote: Of course revenues will be down, but the idea that they are 'operating at a loss' isn't credible given that the numbers they usually show aren't credible either. So MLB is a business which can lose half of their revenue off the top (with the lost half season) and then another 40-ish percent off the half they might play (estimate of the live gate as a pct of their whole income) and it's still not possible that they'll operate at a loss off of that? I'm not buying it. Sorry I was not clear there at all. rather than "the idea that they are 'operating at a loss' isn't credible" I meant to say "the owners' contention that they are 'operating at a loss' isn't credible" It may be true that they will be losing money. But they have done nothing to prove it and I don't trust their numbers anyway. Which is fine, their CBA doesnt require them to prove the numbers as part of a revenue sharing/salary cap agreement with the players the way that the NFL does. They have every right to be secretive, but the union has an equal right to demand more accountability if the owners want concessions. everyone is right and wrong here. The question is do they want to figure it out and play?

Frayed Knot wrote: =Ceetar post_id=37710 time=1591017442 user_id=102]I don't think it really matters what the owners are 'claiming' about revenues, since literally everyone knows it's a lie. Without getting into a discussion about particular numbers, it stands to reason that if they have to play all or most of somewhere between 82 and 114 games with no fans in the stands meaning no tickets sold, no parking, no concessions, plus whatever else adds up when fans show up at ballparks then it would be idiotic to suggest that revenue isn't going to be affected.