Benjamin Grimm

I hated those cutaways to Bonds in Milwaukee during Saturday's game. Bonds is at 753 home runs. I don't see why we need live coverage of his 754th home run. Big deal! It won't tie or break the record. I'm almost as fatigued of Barry Bonds as I am of President Bush. (And that's saying a LOT.) Enough already. At one point I was enduring a 12-pitch at bat by Barry and wishing I was watching on TiVo-delay so I could fast-forward.

Nobody ever said that he was the Holy of Holies. (Whatever that means.) We just don't agree with you that he's the Fount of all Evil. Your inability to see shades of grey in this matter reminds me of that guy who sees Willie Randolph as sinister and brain damaged.

Even more surprising is that Brian Daubach has won three times and Carlos Delgado hasn't even won once.

Well said. Casey's contribution certainly can't be judged by his wins and losses as a manager. But, as much as anybody, he helped the franchise establish itself. None of the other founders wore a uniform number, so Casey's 37 in a way stands for all of them. I can see how he can be seen as less deserving than Hodges or Seaver, but I don't think they erred in retiring Casey Stengel's number.

="Elster88"]And other cool stuff like who has the most daily wins. Okay, since you asked. Keep in mind that daily totals have only been tracked since April 2003. If I had been tracking them since the UMDB's inception in early 1999, Mike Piazza would probably have a much higher total. So, to a lesser degree, would Tommie Agee and John Milner. (They would have received the "death benefit" that Donn Clendenon, Tug McGraw, Rod Kanehl and maybe a few others did.) Keith Hernandez170Dwight Gooden160David Wright132Tug McGraw84Tom Seaver83Mike Piazza80Lee Mazzilli80Ron Darling70Lenny Dykstra44Darryl Strawberry28Ed Kranepool21David Cone19Mookie Wilson18Gary Carter18Jason Phillips17Howard Johnson15Wally Backman15Dave Kingman14Jerry Koosman14Kevin Mitchell14Rich Rodriguez14Roberto Alomar13Jos� Reyes13Bruce Boisclair12Armando Benitez12Pedro Martinez11Kaz Matsui11Al Leiter10Pedro Martinez10Jeff Reardon10Cleon Jones8Tom Glavine8Carlos Beltran8Kenny Rogers8Willie Randolph7Donn Clendenon7Don Zimmer7Elio Chacon7Jimmy Piersall7Bobby Bonilla6Edgardo Alfonzo6Gregg Jefferies6John Stearns6Roger McDowell6Danny Heep6Danny Frisella6Mel Rojas6Kris Benson6Benny Ayala6Dae-Sung Koo6Rusty Staub5Willie Mays5Sid Fernandez5George Foster5Mackey Sasser5Jesse Orosco5John Olerud5Roberto Petagine5John Gibbons5Mike Jacobs5Bud Harrelson4Nolan Ryan4Ron Swoboda4Vince Coleman4Anthony Young4Dave Magadan4Jeff Kent4Billy Beane4Brian Giles4Lenny Randle4Stan Jefferson4Mike Kinkade4Braden Looper4Bobby Valentine3Tim Teufel3Cory Lidle3Tsuyoshi Shinjo3George Theodore3Joe McEwing3Jeromy Burnitz3Warren Spahn3Nino Espinosa3Ron Gardenhire3Mike Vail3Ricardo Jordan3Rod Kanehl3Bill Sudakis3Richard Hidalgo3Gordie Richardson3Brian Daubach3Jon Matlack2Gil Hodges2Bob Ojeda2Art Shamsky2Hubie Brooks2Turk Wendell2Ron Hodges2Roger Cede�o2Ron Hunt2Skip Lockwood2Ellis Valentine2Brian McRae2Eric Hillman2David Segui2Vinegar Bend Mizell2Dave Gallagher2Rodney McCray2Kelly Stinnett2Victor Zambrano2Victor Diaz2Billy Baldwin2Tom Hall2Al Pedrique2Bart Shirley2John Maine2Xavier Nady2Alay Soler2Carlos Gomez2Tommie Agee1Kevin McReynolds1Joe Torre1Kevin Elster1John Franco1Jerry Grote1John Milner1Mo Vaughn1Doug Flynn1Craig Swan1Todd Zeile1Doug Sisk1Yogi Berra1Juan Samuel1Frank Thomas1Duffy Dyer1Randy Myers1Marv Throneberry1Carlos Baerga1Gary Gentry1Barry Lyons1Pat Zachry1Steve Trachsel1Jay Payton1Cliff Floyd1Bill Pulsipher1Derek Bell1Richie Hebner1Todd Pratt1Daryl Boston1Ed Lynch1Mickey Lolich1Jeff Innis1Jason Isringhausen1Carl Everett1Joe Orsulak1Pete Falcone1Roger Craig1Don Aase1Ken Singleton1Mike Marshall1Jesse Gonder1Jae Seo1Pete Harnisch1Roy McMillan1Cal Koonce1Larry Bowa1Octavio Dotel1Aaron Heilman1Jos� Cardenal1Bob Bailor1Tom Gorman1Mark Johnson1Dick Selma1Bob Miller1Grant Roberts1Mike Torrez1Jay Hook1Danny Napoleon1Harry Chiti1Mike Cameron1Paul Byrd1Jeff Duncan1Takashi Kashiwada1Ed Glynn1Dicky Gonzalez1Bobby Jones1Carlos Diaz1Bob Gibson1Marco Scutaro1Kevin Tapani1Clem Labine1John Hudek1Tom Veryzer1Greg Goossen1Doug Henry1Rick White1Jorge Toca1Karim Garcia1Jaime Cerda1Pumpsie Green1Eric Valent1Mike Bishop1John Thomson1Jason Jacome1Ryan McGuire1Barry Jones1Dan Wheeler1Bob Friend1Mike Glavine1Ken Sanders1Edwin Almonte1Ray Searage1Herb Moford1Gary Kolb1Eric Cammack1Doug Mientkiewicz1Chico Fernandez1Brian Rose1Craig Paquette1McKay Christensen1Ced Landrum1Pat Strange1Brock Pemberton1Keith Hughes1Marlon Anderson1Matt Ginter1Wayne Graham1Joe Hietpas1Rich Puig1Joe Moock1Roberto Hernandez1Jos� Offerman1Oliver Perez1Jorge Julio1Mike Pelfrey1Chip Ambres1

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I think of sleepaway camp as fertile ground for child molesters.

Schaefer participation continues to plummet. Only six votes ((G-Fafif, metirish, Frayed Knot, Yancy Street Gang, Gwreck, Rockin' Doc) so far for Thursday's 13-9 win in Los Angeles. Nevertheless, voting will close on Tuesday. If you haven't voted yet, please do so: http://cranepoolforum.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6910 The remaining three games against the Dodgers will close on Wednesday.

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for July 18, 2007 (7 votes) San Diego Padres 5, New York Mets 4 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceDavid Wright19.252.751-4, R, HR, 3 RBI, SO.Carlos Delgado10.501.502-4, R, HR, RBI, SO.John Maine6.750.966.0 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 5 SO.Scott Schoeneweis6.750.961.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 SO.Jos� Valentin3.800.541-3, R, BB, SO, SB.Pedro Feliciano1.750.250.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Carlos Beltran1.050.150-3, R, BB, 2 SO.Paul Lo Duca0.750.111-4.Shawn Green0.150.021-4, 2 SO.

Johnny Dickshot awarded 10.1 points. His votes were automatically pro-rated as follows: OHernandez 5.0 OHernandez 4.95 LoDuca 1.25 LoDuca 1.24 Valentin 1.25 Valentin 1.24 Beltran 1 Beltran 0.99 Delgado 1 Delgado 0.99 Wright 0.30 Wright 0.3 Milledge 0.15 Milledge 0.15 Green 0.15 Green 0.15 VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for July 17, 2007 (11 votes) New York Mets 7, San Diego Padres 0 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceOrlando Hernandez51.964.72(W) 7.0 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 SO.Carlos Beltran16.881.532-4, R, 2 2B, RBI, BB, SO.Paul Lo Duca12.911.171-4, 2 RBI, BB.Carlos Delgado11.791.072-4, 2 RBI, BB, SO.Jos� Valentin11.021.001-3, 2 R, RBI, 2 BB, SB.Pedro Feliciano1.490.141.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 SO.Guillermo Mota1.420.131.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.David Wright1.000.090-3, 2 R, 2 BB, 2 SO.Shawn Green0.890.081-3, BB.Lastings Milledge0.150.010-4, RBI, 2 SO.

Retired numbers is one of the few things the Mets have done right. I have no problem with 37, 14, or 41. (Although 37 may have been unnecessary.) I would absolutely NOT retire 24, 36, 17, 8, or 1. And if 31 was up to me, I'd lean towards no. Piazza had no World Championships, no MVP's, and was in decline for more than half of his Mets career. Let's watch and see if Wright and Reyes can have the kind of career that calls for retiring their numbers. (I'd say 10 to 15 years as a Met and a trip to Cooperstown.) In other words, many years should pass before the Mets retire another number.

Yes, thank you.

OHernandez 1 Heilman 2 Wagner 1 Feliciano 1 Reyes 2 Milledge 2 Ambres 1

The number you're looking for is 54, not 60.

Box score

Vote totals are low for the final two games in San Diego. Nevertheless, voting will close on Monday: Schaefer POTG 07/17/07 Mets 7, Padres 0: http://cranepoolforum.qwknetllc.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6889 Schaefer POTG 07/18/07 Padres 5, Mets 4: http://cranepoolforum.qwknetllc.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6898

Beltran 2 Wright 2 Milledge 1 Castro 1 Mota 1.2 Smith 0.5 Delgado 0.5

Yawn!

Omar in the booth at Dodger Stadium with Gary and Ron during Friday night's game. Says anything the Mets get from Pedro this year is a bonus, and they're mainly focused on 2008. Huh? NOT what I was expecting to hear.

Art Howe was the manager when the Mets traded Wigginton.

Perez 4.5 Feliciano 1 Wagner 0.5 Beltran 2 Wright 1 Reyes 1

Did the San Diego guys also strike you as being particularly bad? Badder than most?

Despite the mistakes pointed out in this thread, it was very pleasant to listen to. It brought back memories for me of the Saturday Game of the Week that used to be on NBC, plus, of course, the 1986 World Series. And it's a kick to listen to the guy who's been doing Dodgers games continuously since they played in Brooklyn. I'd listen to him talk about Jose Reyes and David Wright and think that he also talked about Pee Wee Reese and Duke Snider. There's a certain charm in hearing Vin Scully talk about the home towns of the various umpires. And every once in a while he'll say something odd, like "It's funny how some people named James are Jimmy or Jim, but some of them are James." With no one else in the booth with him, the comment just sits there and seems all the more odd because of that.

I was pleasantly surprised by the Cincinnati broadcast team last weekend. I usually only half listen to announcers, and this time was no exception. But I heard them make some interesting points and I didn't find myself annoyed or exasperated at all. Now the San Diego team on the other hand was comprised of two idiots. I didn't catch either of their names, but they were about as bad as it gets. (Disclaimer: I still haven't heard a YES broadcast of a Yankees game.)

Small item in the Daily News today says that according to Omar, Pedro will throw a simulated game when he returns to the US from the DR and then he'll pitch in a minor league game. Nothing about a timetable, however.