Hall of Fame ballot

[nymr83]

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, I don't like the erase-the-guy-forever rule. Guys with 50% or more should return to the ballot the next year, guys with 30-49.9% should return in two, etc. So maybe five years later, voters would get a new chance to look at Lofton, or my favorite one-and-done snub, Lou Whitaker.

not counting guys who were banned from baseball or still have eligibility I think the two biggest snubs are Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammel. Kenny Lofton and Jim Edmonds also deserved a lot more consideration than they were given.

[Vic Sage]

I don't know that Alan Trammel was "snubbed". He was on the ballot for ... what... 15 years?, and he didn't get elected. He may well have been deserving (i came around to that position in his later years on the ballot), but that's different than being 1-and-done, without ever really getting a shot to have your case made, like Whitaker and Lofton.

[Edgy MD]

White privilege.

[Guest 41Forever]

Edgy MD wrote: White privilege.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof_2001.shtml

Not excusing the HOF voters, by any means. Whitaker should have been given a longer ride.

That 2001 ballot was stacked, with seven players on it eventually enshrined -- Winfield, Puckett, Carter, Rice, Sutter, Gossage and Blyleven -- and several others whom I wouldn't be shocked get in eventually -- Jack Morris, Dave Concepcion, Mattingly -- through the Vets, or whatever the HOF calls its non-writer process these days.

The writer-created logjam hurt players like Whitaker. Also that mindset where some guys don't vote for anyone in their first year of eligibility.

There is hope here that Trammell and Whitaker go in together next year.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2016/10/03/trammell-whitaker-could-enter-hof-together-2018/91499610/

[Edgy MD]

Don't most ballots contain about seven guys who will eventually get in? Picking a few random years, 1991 had nine guys who would eventually get in, and 1981 had 11.

And among all those guys on that ballot you describe as "stacked," Whitaker was second in WAR.

[Guest 41Forever]

Edgy MD wrote: Don't most ballots contain about seven guys who will eventually get in? Picking a few random years, 1991 had nine guys who would eventually get in, and 1981 had 11. And among all those guys on that ballot you describe as "stacked," Whitaker was second in WAR.

Like I said, I'm not defending the voters. People here all assumed the guy was a Hall of Famer. No way should he have been a one-and-done guy.

[seawolf17]

41Forever wrote: several others whom I wouldn't be shocked get in eventually -- Mattingly

NO. Not before Keith. Eff that.