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IGT 9/12/16: NYM@WAS -- The Rafael With It

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Zvon Prep Ball

Zvon

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Frayed Knot wrote:
A Sept. race for a spot is not the time to be giving a pitcher with such a glaring problem a second chance.


Which leaves the question, if not him then who? This team has already gone ten deep in starters so it's either giving one of the other spare parts a second (third?) chance: Ynoa?, Merrett?, Niese is no longer in the equation, or give it to a completely new starter: Gilmartin? Smoker?


Unfortunately you have to go thru them and see who gets the job done.

Who's next? I dunno. I liked Ynoa early on. Right now I'll just observe. And maybe pray.

lil bit.

I know one thing. We have a lot of arms on the team right now. If Terry wants to see what someone's got use onea those. Montero had all this potential, this promise, but that evaporated some time ago.


Frayed Knot FCL Mets

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Zvon wrote:
Cardinals don't have a hit through 7 innings, they trail the Cubs 4-0.


Now thru 8


Also Pitt losing and Marlins losing in addition to the Cards. Giants play late in SD.
So maybe we'll survive tonight intact despite it all.


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Frayed Knot wrote:
Zvon wrote:
Cardinals don't have a hit through 7 innings, they trail the Cubs 4-0.


Now thru 8


Also Pitt losing and Marlins losing in addition to the Cards. Giants play late in SD.
So maybe we'll survive tonight intact despite it all.


The Cub pitcher is Hendricks.


Frayed Knot FCL Mets

Frayed Knot

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In St Louis: 3rd pitch of the 9th inning = HR by Jeremy Hazelbaker.

And now somehow this all leads to Joe Maddon getting tossed from the game although it's not exactly clear why B followed A


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Cubs no-no evaporates with a HR by Baker (I think)...


Edgy MD FCL Mets

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Well, he was sent from Bingo, rather than Vegas, and he ain't going back, because the season is over.

/pedant

I'm thinking the problem isn't Montero. It's taking the foot off the gas.


Centerfield First Round Pick

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Yes, or Matz. Serious question, what happened to Logan Verrett? I know I was down on him, but maybe he has some magic left for a start or two.

Montero is puzzling. On one hand, I feel like he could still work it out. He seems to have good stuff. Low 90's fastball, a good sinker, and his slider moves. And we've all heard that he has, or at least used to have, good control. His problem seems to be mental. His fastball is 94 with movement. I don't know why he's so afraid to throw it. If he could ever get straight in the head, I think he could still be pretty good.

The problem is, if history tells you anything, that guys who have this mental block have just as hard a time getting over it as someone with physical limitations.


Edgy MD FCL Mets

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Yeah, I don't think the Mets have any reason to panic. They likely have deGrom or Matz returning, and if not, they have Gilly, Gabey, and Logey. I guess they thought he was close enough to effective thus far to try and give him one more shot. Failure happens, and they're blessed to have other options to turn to.

As noted, the one early run and the lack of a will/ability to punch themselves back into the game concerns me more. If you want to be a post-season team, you can't just take the lickings from the best and console yourself that Minnesota is still on your schedule.


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Edgy MD wrote:
So who was for pinch-hitting for him in the top of the second.

I wasn't paying attention at the time, but that would have been cool, decisiveness-wise.

Washington getting some pitcher attrition of their own.


I was definitely for pinch-hitting for him. That's kind of the advantage of expanded rosters you know? But then again, I think I tend to be quick with the hook. I was all over Terry to pull him in the first. I think it's a miracle we got with only 2 runs.

Inexcusable, though, to leave him in to give up four runs in the second. He have up a HR to the pitcher, then gave up a laser beam to Turner that found the bat of Reyes. After the double to Murphy, he should have been gone.

Instead Terry left him in to face Rendon. This is not Jacob deGrom we are talking about here. If the kid has nothing, go and get him. It's September.


Edgy MD FCL Mets

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He was indefatigable, that Quitkowski. Unstoppable. No matter what came to pass, he never quit quitting. Those who knew him thought of him as a machine. While they were considering possibly giving up on the season, he was already quitting on the next one.


Frayed Knot FCL Mets

Frayed Knot

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Ashie62 wrote:
The Mets look beaten.

I'd can TC and Sandy after the season and start semi fresh


10 wins in the last 14 got you down?
not to mention moving from 5th in the WC race to 2nd


MFS62 First Round Pick

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Frayed Knot wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
The Mets look beaten.

I'd can TC and Sandy after the season and start semi fresh


10 wins in the last 14 got you down?
not to mention moving from 5th in the WC race to 2nd

Don't interrupt him, he's on a roll.
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