IGT 7/18/16: NYM@CHC -- Keep The Fire Burnin'

[Fman99]

That was a shitty 3rd strike.

[Zvon]

Frayed Knot wrote: There you go. July of '65 according to the caption. [fimg=500]http://forgotten-ny.com/wp-content/gallery/streetscenes_shea2_13/old-1965-scoreboard.jpg[/fimg] And congrats to Mr. and Mrs. Ralph Allen while we're at it.

Oh, you guys are talking about the outta town sections? I wasn't quite following , I didn't hear what Gary said.

[Fman99]

All kinds of sucky there.

[Frayed Knot]

Zvon wrote: Oh, you guys are talking about the outta town sections? I wasn't quite following , I didn't hear what Gary said.

Gary & Ron were talking about Wrigley's scoreboard which still lists pitchers by numbers 1 through whatever based on an alphabetical list.
And Gary mentioned they used to do that at Yanqui stadium back in the day but never did so at Shea. That shocked me because Gary remembers 10x more about that era Mets than I do yet I was sure that he was wrong.

And I found another photo from as late as 1969 where the system was still in use but I can't get it to transfer here.

[Zvon]

Frayed Knot wrote: Zvon wrote: Oh, you guys are talking about the outta town sections? I wasn't quite following , I didn't hear what Gary said. Gary & Ron were talking about Wrigley's scoreboard which still lists pitchers by numbers 1 through whatever based on an alphabetical list. And Gary mentioned they used to do that at Yanqui stadium back in the day but never did so at Shea. That shocked me because Gary remembers 10x more about that era Mets than I do yet I was sure that he was wrong. And I found another photo from as late as 1969 where the system was still in use but I can't get it to transfer here.

Thanks. Interesting info. I hate to admit it but I don't think I ever noticed that they had a line for the pitcher like that. I know the useless stuff like THROWING OF OBJECTS IS PROHIBITED. I was aware of the little ump section. That was pretty kool.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

We must never lose our yearnin'

[Zvon]

BTW, we are definitely going to comeback. Come ooon, we pwn these guys.

[Zvon]

Oh, it's the 9th. GAH!

[Fman99]

The Mets lost. I was sad.

[Frayed Knot]

A scoreboard shot with non-uni numbers denoting the out of town pitchers in a game vs Montreal which puts it no earlier than 1969
In fact that's Opening Day 1969. Mets would score 4 times in the 9th to lose 11-10 in the Expos first ever game.
[crossout:3k6bso7o]Asdrubal Cabrera[/crossout:3k6bso7o] Rod Gaspar struck out with runners on 1st & 2nd to end the game.

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- that's Rusty in RF
- the flag at half-staff was for the death of President Eisenhower a week and change earlier
- I was supposed to go to that game but my father got sick so we went the next day instead

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: Zvon wrote: Oh, you guys are talking about the outta town sections? I wasn't quite following , I didn't hear what Gary said. Gary & Ron were talking about Wrigley's scoreboard which still lists pitchers by numbers 1 through whatever based on an alphabetical list. And Gary mentioned they used to do that at Yanqui stadium back in the day but never did so at Shea. That shocked me because Gary remembers 10x more about that era Mets than I do yet I was sure that he was wrong. And I found another photo from as late as 1969 where the system was still in use but I can't get it to transfer here.

I remember that, and I'm younger than you. Back then, you needed the secret decoder book to figure out who was pitching in the out of town games. Here are two scoreboard pics --- more evidence -- the b&w's from 1965, the color one's from 1973. The Getty ad is the '73 giveaway. That and the scoreboard message referring to the Mets '73 yearbook. Staub's also the right-fielder in the color pic. It's a complete game one-hit shutout for Jon Matlack on July 10, 1973. Astro leadoff hitter and ex-Met hero Tommie Agee goes 0-4 with three K's in his last season. and makes the last out of the game. Agee was the only Astro to come to the plate four times, as Matlack faces just one more than the minimum number of batters. The Mets remain in last place, 12 games behind the first place Cubs, who are 14 games over .500. It'll be another Cubs fade at the Mets expense soon enough. (As you all know.)

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[Benjamin Grimm]

Cast your vote!

[Guest cooby]

Frayed Knot wrote: There you go. July of '65 according to the caption. [fimg=500]http://forgotten-ny.com/wp-content/gallery/streetscenes_shea2_13/old-1965-scoreboard.jpg[/fimg] And congrats to Mr. and Mrs. Ralph Allen while we're at it.

My thoughts exactly

Who's the creepy face?

[Edgy MD]

That's a cute little cottage Mr. and Mrs. Ralph share at 42-55 Colden.

[Frayed Knot]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Back then, you needed the secret decoder book to figure out who was pitching in the out of town games.

Like I said, what triggered this whole discussion was Gary's testimony about how the Shea scoreboard always operated with regular uniform numbers indicating the pitchers. The fact that I knew that wasn't the case even while attending fewer games and retaining far less trivial knowledge as compared to Gary, I was surprised that no one contacted the booth within that very inning to correct him.
Will have to listen in tonight to see if he revisits the topic.

Who's the creepy face?

Looks to me like that's 1965 starting NYM SS Roy McMillan, on the screen there with all the clarity and definition of your parents mid-60s 19" Zenith b&w set.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I always remember there being a Mets logo where that "creepy face" is. But I do recall hearing that it was originally intended to be an early version of Diamond Vision but it didn't work out. I wonder when they gave up on that experiment? I first started watching the Mets in 1971 and by then the Mets logo was definitely in place.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think it's the ghost of Dan Warthen to come

[Guest cooby]

It looks like a ghost photo bomb.

but I read a lot of ghost books

[Zvon]

Who's the creepy face?

I think that's old Roy McMillan. OE: His corresponding # & position are highlighted on the scoreboard.



With glasses:

This is an unreleased mfc card- I used this photo for his '66 card.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I always remember there being a Mets logo where that "creepy face" is. But I do recall hearing that it was originally intended to be an early version of Diamond Vision but it didn't work out. I wonder when they gave up on that experiment? I first started watching the Mets in 1971 and by then the Mets logo was definitely in place.

They showed a still shot of the batter via a rear projection slide machine, & that was still up there in 1972. Inside the "logo box" it was a small room, walls and surface old and rusty, although the slide machine didn't look all that bad. I found a headset in there, an old TV type with a mic attached. It only covered one ear and the part that rested on your head stopped short of the other ear. The mic was movable and swiveled to a position in front of your mouth. Cripes, I should just google a pic.



Almost exactly like this one^

I took that home with me. It didn't work. IIRC the plug/jack chord had been cut short. But I still treasured it for a short time.

[TransMonk]

Little Cubs fan switches baseballs before throwing back Mets HR ball

[Zvon]

TransMonk wrote: Little Cubs fan switches baseballs before throwing back Mets HR ball

I alluded to that earlier in the IGT. I think the ball-switching is weak. Either you make a statement by throwing the actual HR ball back, or save it and try to Ebay it or whatever. The kids a true Cub fan. He was gonna throw the real ball back.

[Benjamin Grimm]