Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 This is for players. I'll do another for pitchers.I don't think I've ever done a poll here before. If I messed up or if someone isn't listed who should be lemme know.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 That's a surprising choice. I would have guessed it would have been unanimous for Cespedes.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Cespedes for sure. I wonder (hope) if Sandy is thinking of any ways of keeping him from opting out of his contract at the end of the year.In 137 total games with the Mets ('15 + '16), he's batting .295 with 38 HR and 96 RBI. A .949 OPS!Otherwise, I have been pleasantly surprised by Walker and Cabrera. Most everyone else are who I thought they were.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Without a doubt Cespedes. I doubt we'd even be in the discussion without him.We'd probably be wondering why Lagares, Syndergaard and Matz haven't had surgeries and are risking long-term damage on a team headed nowhere.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2016 Author Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) I haven't voted yet. I'm seriously considering Cabrera. I'm like Cooby, I like the underdog (don't know if I can call Cabrera a little guy). But I think of Cespedes numbers and I stall because they are tough to deny. To me, what we are getting from Cabrera is so far above what I expected. But that might not be enough to trump Cespedes. Yoenis is doing pretty much what I hoped and expected but that's no reason to take him for granted. I'll mull this over. Edited July 11, 2016 by Guest
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 I went with Cabrera, and indeed he's second on the team in WAR among hitters.But I honestly need to be changing my vote. It's Céspedes, pole to pole.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2016 Author Posted July 11, 2016 Edgy MD wrote:I went with Cabrera, and indeed he's second on the team in WAR among hitters.But I honestly need to be changing my vote. It's Céspedes, pole to pole.Nah, Cabrera needs a few in his corner. I'm voting Asdrubal!Don't know if I set the poll for changes.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 11, 2016 Author Posted July 11, 2016 OOO, Flores got 2. Well, I will admit he is a force to be reckoned with. And he has been in the middle of big wins. He's been big in big wins!
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 I was hoping to make an additional Cabrera card. Cespedes has so many already. But they should reflect what's going on, and he's been going on in a pretty much consistent manner.Would Mets first half Cy Young be worth a poll? I figure Thor hands down but I haven't compared the rotations #s for a while now. Noah's the only one who has been dominating recently.I should find out which Mets pitcher had the best record ever by the break and name the 1st half award after him. Anyone know off the top of their head?Familia will get a separate award for closer, but maybe there should be a bullpen MVP. I really think Reed deserves something for his first half.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 The guy who I think is the Mets First Half MVP isn't on the list.But if it's the MVP of position players only, then I'd go with Cespedes.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 The guy who I think is the Mets First Half MVP isn't on the list.More categories makes for more cards Overall MVP? I might have to agree. And I suppose I should do one of those as well but I know my limit when it comes to jinxes. I've only named overall MVP at the seasons end.I have this Familia record breaker, but his record is still in progress. In that case I'm afraid to post the card. I know it's silly to think that way but with baseball I do all kinds of weird things due to superstition. I'm not that way with anything else in life. OO, I know what I'll do. Where the final numbers go I'll put STILL IN PROGRESS. WaLA. Jinx free.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Yoenis for sure. Agreed that Cabrera's a nice surprise, but Cespedes is doing exactly what they got him to do. And that's a good thing.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 MVP means the best player, not the player who most exceeded expectations. Among position players Cespedes stands out among all others.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 TransMonk wrote:Cespedes for sure. I wonder (hope) if Sandy is thinking of any ways of keeping him from opting out of his contract at the end of the year.I gotta think that all it would take is adding 2 years to the contract at whatever they're paying him per annum now ($27 mil?). And I gotta think they're thinking pretty seriously about it.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 soupcan wrote:TransMonk wrote:Cespedes for sure. I wonder (hope) if Sandy is thinking of any ways of keeping him from opting out of his contract at the end of the year.I gotta think that all it would take is adding 2 years to the contract at whatever they're paying him per annum now ($27 mil?). And I gotta think they're thinking pretty seriously about it.They better be. Attendance for the first half was way up.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 You never have anything bad to say about Granderson!
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Benjamin Grimm wrote:You never have anything bad to say about Granderson!I'm tough on him because I only want the best for him. One day when he's older he'll understand.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 Centerfield wrote:Benjamin Grimm wrote:You never have anything bad to say about Granderson!I'm tough on him because I only want the best for him. One day when he's older he'll understand.lol. I'm a big fan of Grandy. He got last years overall MVP. Considering his Aprils and Mays are usually down months for him, he produced throughout, albeit unconventionally for a lead off batter. But he reached, and that's the bottom line. His second half could vault him to the front, but as of now I have him around 3rd on my MVP list.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Centerfield wrote:Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.Yeah, but his OPS with runners in scoring position is about .200.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 Lefty Specialist wrote:Centerfield wrote:Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.Yeah, but his OPS with runners in scoring position is about .200.Yea, that was the big stickler. I knew there was one big common complaint that was justifiable. I tend to forget the bad stuff about the Mets.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Lefty Specialist wrote:Centerfield wrote:Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.Yeah, but his OPS with runners in scoring position is about .200.but his OPS in tie games is 1.134
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 Hey how about an Honorable Mention to Granderson for getting his OPS up around .800. Not bad.Yeah, but his OPS with runners in scoring position is about .200.but his OPS in tie games is 1.134I love the good.As far as I'm concerned he's been a great signing.The ultimate relic card:
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Well, I wasn't too far off. OPS with RISP- .490OPS with RISP and 2 out- .330Them's some bad numbers.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 Lefty Specialist wrote:Well, I wasn't too far off. OPS with RISP- .490OPS with RISP and 2 out- .330Them's some bad numbers.These new statistical yardsticks frighten me.
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