IGT - NLDS Game 2 - Mets at Dodgers, 10/10/15, 9:07 PM EDT

[Piggiestomatoes]

Centerfield wrote: I thought you could not challenge the neighborhood play.

Not supposed to be a reviewable play.

[Zvon]

This sucks but don't forget a split here and we're still lookin' very good.

And I feel a comeback. I had a dream...

[Elster88]

Elster88 wrote: Also, you can't review the neoghborhood play. I guess that didn't qualify? Edit: Looks like this was already answered.

Though considering he would've povoted and thrown if he hadn't gotten taken out...

Smells bad.

[Piggiestomatoes]

Buckle-up boys. We've come back from bigger deficits.

[Guest El Segundo Escupidor]

https://twitter.com/BrianPickett/status/653056115643650048

[Edgy MD]

d'Arnaud not swinging the bat like an asset.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

They're saying Tejada never touched the bag there? Wow.

[Elster88]

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I think the reasoning here is that Utley ran off the field because he was called out, and now that because the call was reversed he can't be penalized for it. But they've got to be fucking kidding me if they're going to reverse it on any of the angles that we saw. But the problem is that he didn't run off the field abandoning the base. He never attained it. But the logic (I'm guessing) is that if the play was "correctly" called in the first place that Utley would have touched up instead of leaving the field like he was told. It's just another example of the fallacy that replay can retroactively fix incorrect calls to what supposed to happen.

They're saying this too. Of course, if he hadn't called him out Tejada might have crawled over there and tagged him out.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: But they've got to be fucking kidding me if they're going to reverse it on any of the angles that we saw.

I didn't think any of the TV angles were conclusive either. And that was no take-out slide. Utley wasn't even trying to touch the bag. He went straight for Tejada who wasn't near the bag. Ripken (clean play) and Darling (dirty play) are disagreeing without saying they are.

Edited October 10, 2015 by Guest

[Frayed Knot]

Elster88 wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I think the reasoning here is that Utley ran off the field because he was called out, and now that because the call was reversed he can't be penalized for it. But they've got to be fucking kidding me if they're going to reverse it on any of the angles that we saw. But the problem is that he didn't run off the field abandoning the base. He never attained it. But the logic (I'm guessing) is that if the play was "correctly" called in the first place that Utley would have touched up instead of leaving the field like he was told. It's just another example of the fallacy that replay can retroactively fix incorrect calls to what supposed to happen. They're saying this too. Of course, if he hadn't called him out Tejada might have crawled over there and tagged him out.

Which is why I threw in the second sentence in my reply. -- "It's just another example of the fallacy that replay can retroactively fix incorrect calls to what [was] supposed to happen."

Edited October 10, 2015 by Guest

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think we need some kind of response, prefererably offensive, right now or they will more or less get away with this shit.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Seems like Travis hasn't had a hit in a month.

[Elster88]

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I think the reasoning here is that Utley ran off the field because he was called out, and now that because the call was reversed he can't be penalized for it. But they've got to be fucking kidding me if they're going to reverse it on any of the angles that we saw. But the problem is that he didn't run off the field abandoning the base. He never attained it. But the logic (I'm guessing) is that if the play was "correctly" called in the first place that Utley would have touched up instead of leaving the field like he was told. It's just another example of the fallacy that replay can retroactively fix incorrect calls to what supposed to happen. They're saying this too. Of course, if he hadn't called him out Tejada might have crawled over there and tagged him out. Which is why I threw in the second sentence in my reply. -- "It's just another example of the fallacy that replay can retroactively fix incorrect calls to what supposed to happen."

Yeah I gotcha. I agree

[Edgy MD]

Echoes of the Piazza beaning. The opponent not only lands a dirty punch, but leave the Mets unable to respond.

[Gwreck]

Oh, they're able to respond. Fastball in Adrian Gonzalez's ribs the next time he sets foot in the batter's box.

[Frayed Knot]

The thing about that play is that it could have occurred exactly as it did and been called:
- as no outs (the way it was)
- as one out (the original call)
- or as two outs (had Utley been flagged for an illegal slide and the batter/runner been thumbed on account of it)

[Frayed Knot]

Oh, they're able to respond. Fastball in Adrian Gonzalez's ribs the next time he sets foot in the batter's box.

Robles could do it, half the league already hates him.

[TransMonk]

Gwreck wrote: Oh, they're able to respond. Fastball in Adrian Gonzalez's ribs the next time he sets foot in the batter's box.

This. Or in Utley's earhole.

[Elster88]

Frayed Knot wrote: The thing about that play is that it could have occurred exactly as it did and been called: - as no outs (the way it was) - as one out (the original call) - or as two outs (had Utley been flagged for an illegal slide and the batter/runner been thumbed on account of it)

It's gross.

[HahnSolo]

Robles would get my vote as Met Most Likely to Retaliate

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah but what we really need is the lead back.

[TransMonk]

I'm also worried about the sudden lack of SS on this team.

All Flores all the time?

[Piggiestomatoes]

If there is any justice, Douchely is concussed.

However the game ends, I'd like to see a brawl after the last pitch.

[Valadius]

Fractured right fibula for Tejada.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah but what we really need is the lead back.

Exactly.

[Edgy MD]

When they come back, Terry may be disappointed he burned through his pen.

[Benjamin Grimm]

TransMonk wrote: I'm also worried about the sudden lack of SS on this team. All Flores all the time?

Kelly Johnson played a little shortstop this year, but if I recall correctly, nobody hit the ball to him.

David Wright has played shortstop too, but I wouldn't want to put him there at this point in his career.

They can activate Eric Campbell. He's played 6 innings in the big leagues at shortstop.

[Elster88]

Valadius wrote: Fractured right fibula for Tejada.

Source?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Here we go guys.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Still haven't heard a good explanation of this, from MLB or any of its online apologists. It's basically make-shit-up rulefakery.

And, y'know, that slide was cool with old school Cal and his ilk, right? But God FORBID Utley, say, fails to properly run out a foregone-conclusion pop up or something.