Harvey's innings

[Edgy MD]

I've given it some serious thought and the correct Cespedes analogy is Giant Squid-Like Creature.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Gigantic, even!

[Guest cooby classic]

This is obviously the thread I was looking for earlier

[Guest El Segundo Escupidor]

Wow, it's not often you read the Great Boras fumbling his way through an interview like this:

"I think the best thing to say is we're in the playoffs," he said. "We're going to let the playoffs do what they're going to do. All of those discussion , his planning, are going to be I'm sure after the season."

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/scott-boras-matt-harvey-gave-his-arm-already-for-the-mets-1.10943818

[Benjamin Grimm]

After the postseason is over, I'm willing to cap Harvey's innings at zero until spring training.

[Guest cooby classic]

and he'll get hurt playing pickup basketball...

[Elster88]

Let's go Harvey. Shut up all the critics.

[TransMonk]

So, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here, but since this thread is about Harvey...

If the Mets were to make it to the NLCS, I would be a big proponent of just starting Harvey in Game 1. I believe the team has already decided that he is only going to pitch one game in any remaining postseason series, so why waste that bullet? Harvey showed in Game 3 of the NLDS (and multiple times during the regular season) that he is less effective on long rest. Pitching him in a possible Game 1 situation of the NLCS would put him on normal rest where he has historically been more effective.

The rest of the series rotation can be dictated on opponent and match-ups, but if they are going to wait more than 6 days to pitch Harvey again, they might as well shut him down because I'm not sure it is worth it.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, it depends on if the Mets win the NLDS in four games or five. If deGrom doesn't have to pitch NLDS Game 5 is available for NLCS Game 1, he's the guy I'd go with. If the Mets are playing the Cubs, I'd then go with Syndergaad in Game 2 at Citi Field. If they play the Cardinals, Game 2 will be in St. Louis, so I'd consider Harvey for that game and Syndergaard for Game 3 in Queens.

If the Mets win on Thursday instead of tonight, then yes, I'd consider Harvey for Game 1.

[TransMonk]

deGram vs. the Cubs in 3 career starts: 6.46 ERA

[Ceetar]

TransMonk wrote: deGram vs. the Cubs in 3 career starts: 6.46 ERA

small sample.

also small sample is Harvey on long rest.


I don't know for sure Harvey is actually going to be limited. I think the question becomes (if you don't use deGrom) is if you're going to try to get three games from Jacob. Probably depends on Matz does tonight.

If you're not short-resting deGrom, then I figure the rotation is fine and Harvey would be on normal rest for game 7 after game 3

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think the only limit in effect for Harvey for the postseason is that he'd only get five starts. So one in the NLDS, and potentially two each in the NLCS and World Series. So he could start Game 1 of either best-of-seven, but he wouldn't be on one of those aggressive schedules where he pitches Games 1, 4, and 7.

[Guest El Segundo Escupidor]

Tezza says Harvey won't pitch again in the NLDS
Source: mlb@bat app

[Benjamin Grimm]

No surprise there.

[Edgy MD]

Anthony DiComo tweets that Matt Harvey will be available if the situation calls for him tonight.

[Benjamin Grimm]

My current understanding is that if Terry needs a long reliever, Syndergaard gets called on first. Hopefully that would include extra innings; if Noah comes in late in a tie game, I'd try to get about four (or more) innings from him if necessary.

[Edgy MD]

Six starters with a team coming off a travel day should mean 100% of your pitchers are available over about 40 innings. Terry just has the unenviable task of picking the right ones in the right order. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

[TransMonk]

Let's just score 17 runs in the first inning and be done with it.

[Gwreck]

The only restriction I can see is that either Harvey or Syndergaard has to be held back to start the potential game 1 on Saturday.

(I guess today might be their bullpen day and they could do an inning on the mound if necessary).

[Benjamin Grimm]

I would think so. If both of them go three innings, for example, and the Mets win, then Saturday is either Matz on short rest (unlikely) or Colon or Niese.

[Edgy MD]

I can't imagine a 40-inning marathon in which they'd have to use all their spare starters.

But I can't imagine any reason they should refrain from doing so if they did have to.

All is good. Let's just unload on those damnable Dodgers.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, yes. They do what it takes to win. And if they do win the 40-inning game with six exhausted starters, then you activate Gilmartin or Verrett to start on Saturday.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Well, yes. They do what it takes to win. And if they do win the 40-inning game with six exhausted starters, then you activate Gilmartin or Verrett to start on Saturday.

doubt Matz is available and not sure Bartolo would be either, so you could start those guys.

[Edgy MD]

John Heyman reporting that Matt Harvey and Scott Boras have taken out insurance on his arm � a two-tiered policy that covers him against a catastrophic injury, or simply against a drop off in performance that would lessen the value of his next contract from where it might be assumed to be if he hit the market today.

Good, I guess. It's appropriate to some extent that the player should assume that risk professionally, and it allows Harvey to pitch without worry.

By the way, I wasn't initially able to find this thread. Typing "Harvey's Innings" into our search bar yielded dozens upon dozens of results. I thought for a few seconds and then typed "Doucebag," and hit pay dirt.

[Guest El Segundo Escupidor]

I'd hate to be the actuary who sat down to calculate the premiums on that policy. Maybe we can get Chad86 to give us a heads-up on the finer points.

Tonight at my gym somebody asked me who is the most successful Greek-American in Major League Baseball?
I answered: Scott Boras.

[ashie62]

I believe Harvey also bought couch and robot insurance,

[Guest Mets Willets Point]

And so after inciting the biggest, overblown, pseudo-scandal of the Mets season, Scott Boras says "Nevermind!"

[Benjamin Grimm]

The worst news in that article is that Conforto is a Boras client.

[Centerfield]

Boras will come out with a formula demonstrating how those extra innings bolstered his arm.

[Centerfield]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The worst news in that article is that Conforto is a Boras client.

Agreed. But I think I read someplace that this was a factor in him falling in the draft allowing us to get him in the first place.