Curtis Granderson Sucks

[Centerfield]

Granderson, with his 2 HR's yesterday, saw his OPS jump more than 30 points!

At .737, Granderson is now 16th out of 23 rightfielders in the bigs who qualify. His OPS by month:

April: .682
May: .750
June: .857
July: SKY IS THE LIMIT!

[Edgy MD]

Granderson now eighth out of 13 qualifying National League outfielders in OpS after yesterday's outburst. He's sixth in WAR and runs created, fifth in WPA

Amazing is that Nick Markakis is rocking an extreme Curtis performance of his own � sporting a shiny .383 OBP but slugging zero homers.

It basically comes down to

All-Stars/MVP candidates: Bryce Harper

Fringey All-Star Candidates: Andre Ethier, Gregory Polanco, Giancarlo Stanton (who likely makes the AS team on name recognition anyhow)

Useful Guys: Curtis Granderson, Carlos Gonzalez, Ryan Braun, Jason Heyward, Matt Kemp, Nick Markakis

Unproductive Guys: Jorge Soler, Ender Inciarte, Mark Trumbo, Jay Bruce

[Ceetar]

Granderson at wRC+ 111 is higher than the RF average 110 and the NL RF average 105.

I mean, you want better for him but above average has to be above 'suck' right?

(Cuddyer at 110)

[nymr83]

We interrupt tonight's game with another update from Curtis, currently 2 for 3 with a walk and a double

[Guest d'Kong76]

Conrotolations! haha

[Gwreck]

Nymr83 wrote: We interrupt tonight's game with another update from Curtis, currently 2 for 3 with a walk and a double

Yabbut:
His first hit was off the wall in center field but he misread it and only got to first;
He played a single into a double while in right (properly charged with an error)
He was slow to get a double out of the corner, allowing a runner to score from first on a double (with less than 2 outs)
Was thrown out at home in the first on a ball to short left.

Last one might have been Teufel's fault but Curtis could still use a benching tomorrow.

[Edgy MD]

Curtis Granderson is the best thing that ever happened to Eric Campbell. Plawecki, too.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Capmbell. Jesus Christmas. BTW, Kirk DFA'ed by Anaheim. Hmm?

[Edgy MD]

Granderson now third in WAR (Fangraphs) among NL rightfielders. I mean, third in a two-man race, but still.

[list:2tsnlk2x]1) Bryce Harper (Nationals): 4.9
2) Giancarlo Stanton (Marlins): 3.7
3) Curtis Granderson (Mets): 1.9
4) Jason Heyward (Cardinals): 1.8
5) Nick Markakis (Braves): 1.2
6) Andre Ethier (Dodgers): 1.1
7) Jay Bruce (Reds): 1.1
8) Ryan Braun (Brewers): 0.9
9) Ender Inciarte (Diamondbacks): 0.9
10) Gregor Blanco (Giants): 0.8
11) Yasiel Puig (Dodgers): 0.8
12) Mark Trumbo (Diamondbacks): 0.7
13) Jorge Soler (Cubs): 0.5
14) Clint Robinson (Nationals): 0.4
15) Justin Maxwell (Giants): 0.3
16) Yasmany Tomas (Diamondbacks): 0.3
17) Gregory Polanco (Pirates): 0.2
18) Carlos Gonzalez (Rockies): 0.1
19) Jeff Francoeur (Phillies): -0.2
20) Grady Sizemore (Phillies): -0.6
21) Matt Kemp (Padres): -0.8[/list:u:2tsnlk2x]

Could you imagine if we were trotting Kemp out there night after night?

[nymr83]

Interesting that Curtis has 1.9 and has had most of our PAs in RF, but Baseball Reference list the Mets with .9 WAR in RF this year?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/team_compare.cgi?lg=MLB&year=2015

I'm think there is something I'm missing here

[Ceetar]

one, or both, of the sites calculates the positional stuff weirdly, about who plays there and who counts as a "Right fielder" and does or doesn't count the pinch-hitter stuff..

[Edgy MD]

1) I'm using FanGraphs which calculates WAR differently.

2) Kirk Nieuwenhuis has been a healthy little drain in his sporadic appearances.

[Edgy MD]

Curtis Granderson sucks.

He sucks victory from the mouth of defeat.

[Centerfield]

11th out of 23 qualified rightfielders in OPS (.766). I would gladly take this through the end of the season.

[Centerfield]

Up to .790 in OPS. Now 9th in RF'ers in OPS!

[nymr83]

Curtis would like to say "f u" to this thread,

[Centerfield]

Curtis Granderson has raised his OPS by more than 100 points since the start of this thread.

[Guest d'Kong76]

By more than 150 would have been better, let the Sucks continue!

[Frayed Knot]

He really sucks at sucking these days.

[Edgy MD]

Centerfield wrote: Curtis Granderson has raised his OPS by more than 100 points since the start of this thread.

Ah, The Boobird's Failsafe.

[nymr83]

Has anyone checked on Curtis lately? all the way up to .251/.342/.455, 22 HRs.

Baseball Reference WAR (3.3) has him 20th among NL position players.

suck that!

[Frayed Knot]

Has anyone checked his vs LHP splits lately? -- .146/.191/.214 ... That DOES Suck!!

He should be in prime position for a RH-hitting platoon partner, if only we had a RH-hitting platoon partner who was actually hitting these days.

[nymr83]

yeah, he should likely be in a platoon, especially since said platoon ciould move Cespedes to a corner and get Lagares' glove into the lineup, you'd come out ahead defensively even if you only broke even on offense,

[Lefty Specialist]

Problem is, as we all know, his platoon partner would be Coach Cuddy, who singles occasionally but does little else these days.

[Frayed Knot]

Or if the RFD in John Mayberry RFD Jr didn't stand for Really Fucking Drop as in that's what his v-LHP stats did this year, from an OPS of right around 840 for his career to [u:2l1msxxf]628[/u:2l1msxxf] this season !!
Hell, that's worse than what his career v-RHP had been (646)

As I've said before, it was bad enough that injuries (Wright, d'Arnaud) and regression (Lagares, Duda) and at times slower than hoped for development (Flores, Herrera) wrecked havoc on the offense, but it may have been just as damaging that virtually every one of the backup plans failed too: Mayberry, Nieuwenhuis, Ceciliani, Campbell, Recker, Monell, Muno, etc.


on edit: the neuf-tet of Campbell, Nieuwenhuis, Mayberry, Plawecki, Ceciliani, Recker, Monell, Muno & Herrera
combined to eat up 828 Plate Appearances this season while hitting a collective .182/.254/.294 w/a 26.4% K-rate

[Edgy MD]

Cuddyer would be just fine in that role. And it would take him out of the mix of the left/center platoon between Conforto and Lagares with Cespedes taking swinging back and forth.

It would be an awesome September, with Cespedes and maybe Duda as the only guys you could expect to be playing everyday.

[Frayed Knot]

Cuddyer would certainly be capable of filling that role, but he hasn't hit any better since his DL stint than he was before it.

[Edgy MD]

He's been FAR better against lefties than Granderson.

But he may be needed at first now.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Curtis is, apparently, a moon-landing skeptic.

[Edgy MD]

He's a moon landing skeptic with as many runs scored as Andrew McCutcheon.