Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 I can honestly say I think you're full of it and I don't believe you for a second when you say that you "no idea" how the banned substance wound up in your body.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) See you in August dummy! (maybe)oe: Not looking good for those who voted for Jenrry and the 'Over' in the saves category.Actually there were two Mejia questions: Will he lead the team in saves (18 of 24 said YES) and Over/Under on 19.5 Saves (15 chose OVER) Edited April 11, 2015 by Guest
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 These guys crack me up... 80 games will cost him about $1,250,000. I said to a friend of mine on the phone the otherday re: Harvelous, "with our luck he'll flunk a roid test."
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Jeeze. I didn't see him working out as our closer, but I never considered he'd fuck up like this. I figured he'd have some worth going forward. Now he's worse than worthless.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 The conditions are just ideal for a Bobby Parnell Hero Act, but I have no clue he'll be able to give.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Also with a white horse in the stable: Syndegaard and Matz!
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) The drug was Stanozolol, same one that got Palmeiro. Edited April 11, 2015 by Guest
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Bullpen attrition. It's like a real thing!
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Ashie62 wrote:The drug was Stanozolol, same one that got Palmeiro.If accurate that's like going old-school steroids.You might as well try to carry a big-ol' Colt .45 in your carry-on luggage through an airport as the odds of getting away with it are about the same.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Wiki effects of Stanozolol (Winstrol) and list of sports abusers.[/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanozololurl]
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Yeah, that's Winstrol. Never mind Palmeiro, that's the stuff that won/lost Ben Johnson his gold. In 1988.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 In a related note, Jenrry was caught trying to hide his stash inside an 8-track cartridge.
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 The booth was talking about masking agent and perhapsstrides in detection but I didn't hear enough to add muchhere. Did anyone else hear that?
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Dope , as Darling said on air " a very selfish thing to do".
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 WOW, Gary and Ron reporting that Mejia is also banned from the post season should the Mets make it
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 That's the "Jhonny Peralta/Melky Cabrera rule," I believe. Seems to me that Peralta finished serving a suspension about a week before the Tigers made the playoffs in 2013(?) and was eligible. Cabrera was a big part of the Giants in 2012 but they left him off the postseason roster anyway (to no big detriment).
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Fourth player busted in 16 days. All four are pitchers, three of them Dominicans.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 metirish wrote:WOW, Gary and Ron reporting that Mejia is also banned from the post season should the Mets make itThat doesn't make sense to me. The penalties are what they are, they're dictated by the CBA and I don't see where it would apply to any post-season play which would occur a full half-season after the time has run out.The Giants, three years ago, chose not to put Melky Cabrera on their active roster for the playoffs but that was their choice, not a league dictate. IOW, not being selected is not the same thing as being banned.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Frayed Knot wrote:WOW, Gary and Ron reporting that Mejia is also banned from the post season should the Mets make itThat doesn't make sense to me. The penalties are what they are, they're dictated by the CBA and I don't see where it would apply to any post-season play which would occur a full half-season after the time has run out.The Giants, three years ago, chose not to put Melky Cabrera on their active roster for the playoffs but that was their choice, not a league dictate. IOW, not being selected is not the same thing as being banned.apparently they 'snuck' it into the CBA.bs to me. (especially since I suspect MLB sometimes did/does massage the timing of this stuff) Postseason games should be just 'games' in terms of suspension. When the Mets sweep through the postseason, Mejia will be suspended 91 games. If they don't make it, 80. The booth was talking about masking agent and perhapsstrides in detection but I didn't hear enough to add muchhere. Did anyone else hear that?I think they said 4 guys busted for this drug in the last few weeks. (haven't fact checked this) Which means either Jenrry was the suspension that marked the trend and they're all going to stop, or they've all stopped (read: switched) using it and it's taking time to filter from their systems.Poor luck. I hope the other Mets taking stuff have better masking agents.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 And Omar Minaya's vaunted Latin American scouting program continues to boast more established juicers than established major-league ball players. For somebody who looked like he could do no wrong his first two seasons here, the long-term damage Minaya inflicted on this team is staggering.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 If Mejia were a racehorse this drug would be allowable in many states.Giddy up!
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 Edgy MD wrote:Fourth player busted in 16 days. All four are pitchers, three of them Dominicans.And all four the same drug, too. Interesting.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 metirish wrote:Dope , as Darling said on air " a very selfish thing to do".If selfish means that the player cares more about his own personal standing in the game (i.e., his salary and stats) instead of his team's standings, then my guess is that practically all players are selfish. They're just not dumb enough to admit it. Not even Daniel Murphy.MLB is a game only to the fans. The players are ruthless businessmen just like the owners.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Gwreck wrote:I can honestly say I think you're full of it and I don't believe you for a second when you say that you "no idea" how the banned substance wound up in your body.I would guess this statement can have some veracity. The list of banned things is long, including some things that are generally available, including through "legitimate" sources (GNC, etc) and prescriptions, and marketed under different names. Especially for a guy living in a foreign country and speaking a different language, formal systems for cross-checking with the team everything you put in or on you is key, but challenging. One man's wistriol is another man's "super ketchup."
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 DGW posted this interesting take from CJ Nitkowskihttp://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/new-york-mets-jenrry-mejia-drug-suspension-dominican-republic-culture-stanozolol-041215
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Edgy MD wrote:Gwreck wrote:I can honestly say I think you're full of it and I don't believe you for a second when you say that you "no idea" how the banned substance wound up in your body.I would guess this statement can have some veracity. The list of banned things is long, including some things that are generally available, including through "legitimate" sources (GNC, etc) and prescriptions, and marketed under different names. Especially for a guy living in a foreign country and speaking a different language, formal systems for cross-checking with the team everything you put in or on you is key, but challenging. One man's wistriol is another man's "super ketchup."I agree with that. Mejia may very well have taken these pills (they are pills, aren't they) without knowing what they were. But it's his responsibility to know what he's taking, and if he needs a trusted translator to help him with that, again, it's on him.The only way I would absolve him of responsibility is if Hostess, for example, announced that Stanozolol has been a secret ingredient in Twinkies, and Mejia has been eating 15 to 20 Twinkies per day.
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