Rookie of the Year Talk

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Here's a list of each team's last Rookie of the Year Winner:

2013 Rays Wil Myers
2013 Marlins Jose Fernandez
2012 Angels Mike Trout
2012 Nationals Bryce Harper
2011 Braves Craig Kimbrel
2010 Rangers Neftali Perez
2010 Giants Buster Posey
2009 A�s Andrew Bailey
2008 Cubs Geovany Soto
2007 Red Sox Dustin Pedroia
2007 Brewers Ryan Braun
2006 Tigers Justin Verlander
2005 Phillies Ryan Howard
2004 Pirates Jason Bay
2003 Royals Angel Berroa
2002 Blue Jays Eric Hinske
2002 Rockies Jason Jennings
2001 Mariners Ichiro Suzuki
2001 Cardinals Albert Pujols
1999 Reds Scott Williamson
1998 D�Backs -No D'Back ever won this award-
1996 Yankees Derek Jeter
1996 Dodgers Todd Hollansworth
1995 Twins Marty Cordova
1991 Astros Jeff Bagwell
1990 Indians Sandy Alomar, Jr.
1989 Orioles Gregg Olson
1987 Padres Benito Santiago
1985 White Sox Ozzie Guillen
1984 Mets Dwight Gooden

[Zvon]

'84? I guess I knew that but still. Wow.

[Theoldmole]

It's been a while for the Dodgers, hasn't it? With no more Tommy LaSorda.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Well, it's not as if they've been lacking for good young talent. It's just that the breakout seasons for those guys have been in Year 2 or 3 of late (or run concurrent with an even bigger rookie year, as with Puig/Jose Fernandez).

[Benjamin Grimm]

Are there any strong rookies in the NL this year? Or do deGrom and perhaps, d'Arnaud, have a legitimate shot? I think d'Arnaud needs to get his batting average up above .250, which won't be easy at this point, to really get into the conversation. DeGrom's handicap is that the innings limit will likely prevent him from finishing the season.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Are there any strong rookies in the NL this year? Or do deGrom and perhaps, d'Arnaud, have a legitimate shot? I think d'Arnaud needs to get his batting average up above .250, which won't be easy at this point, to really get into the conversation. DeGrom's handicap is that the innings limit will likely prevent him from finishing the season.

we had this going in another thread.

Not that voters use fWAR mostly, but Billy Hamilton had built quite a lead.

Billy Hamilton 3.2
Chris Owings 1.9
Jacob deGrom 1.7
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Travis d'Arnaud 0.6
Eric Campbell 0.5
Jeurys Familia 0.5

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It's been a while for the Dodgers, hasn't it? With no more Tommy LaSorda.

Though the Dodgers haven't produced a ROY since 1996, Hollandsworth, their last winner, was the fifth of five straight Dodger ROY's, a major league record:

1996 Todd Hollandsworth
1995 Hideo Nomo
1994 Raul Mondesi
1993 Mike Piazza
1992 Eric Karros

During Lasorda's managerial stint, the Dodgers also ran off a four straight ROY streak from 1979-1982:

1982 Steve Sax
1981 Fernando Valenzuela
1980 Steve Howe
1979 Rick Sutcliffe

Dodgers also won the ROY in four of the award's first seven seasons:

1953 Jim Gilliam
1952 Joe Black
1951
1950
1949 Don Newcombe
1948
1947 Jackie Robinson

Here's a list of each team's next to last ROY winner:

2011 Rays Jeremy Hellickson
2009 Marlins Chris Coghlan
2005 A's Huston Street
2000 Mariners Kazuhiro Sasaki
2000 Braves Rafael Furcal
1999 Royals Carlos Beltran
1998 Cubs Kerry Wood
1998 Dbacks -No D'back ever won the ROY
1997 Phillies Scott Rolen
1997 Red Sox Nomar Garciaparra
1995 Dodgers Hideo Nomo
1993 Angels Tim Salmon
1993 Rockies -franchise has just one ROY winner
1992 Brewers Pat Listach
1991 Twins Chuck Knoblauch
1988 Reds Chris Sabo
1986 Cardinals Todd Worrell
1983 White Sox Ron Kittle
1983 Mets Darryl Strawberry
1982 Orioles Cal Ripken, Jr.
1981 Yankees Dave Righetti
1980 Indians Joe Charboneau
1979 Blue Jays Alfredo Griffin
1978 Tigers Lou Whitaker
1977 (Nationals)/Expos Andre Dawson
1976 Padres Butch Metzger
1975 Giants John Montefusco
1974 Rangers Mike Hargrove
1962 Astros/Colt .45's -franchise has just one ROY winner
1947* Pirates -franchise has just one ROY winner

* first year of award

[Edgy MD]

Quiz

Rules: One guess per post, and NO CONSECUTIVE POSTS. If you guess, you wait until somebubby else posts, then you come in. One point per correct guess. Minus one point per incorrect guess. Three incorrect guesses and you're done.

Oh, and no peeking. Honor system.

Question: Since Dwight Gooden was the NL Rookie of the Year in 1984, the Mets have had 13 players garner ROY votes for them. Name those 13.

[Frayed Knot]

Gregg Jefferies ... TWICE!!

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Kaz Matsui

[Edgy MD]

I'm going to give FK two points for your one guess there.

No.	Year	Player	Place	Pts.	First Pl. Votes	Share	Winner
1	1988	Jefferies	T6	3	0	2%	Sabo
2	1989	Jefferies	3	18	0	15%	Walton
3	2004	Matsui	T6	1	0	1%	Bay

Frayed Knot: 2
Mets Guy: 1

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

David Wight?

[Zvon]

All those rules and FK just goes: pow,pow. 2 points on one.


Jose Reyes?

[Frayed Knot]

Matt Harvey

[Edgy MD]

Neither David Wight nor David Wright managed to finish in the money, putting up a rookie year that was only a third of a year.

Matt Harvey (10 starts) similarly watched the RotY action from the sidelines.

No.	Year	Player	Place	Pts.	First Pl. Votes	Share	Winner
1	1988	Jefferies	T6	3	0	2%	Sabo
2	1989	Jefferies	3	18	0	15%	Walton
3	2003	Reyes	T8	1	0	1%	Willis
4	2004	Matsui	T6	1	0	1%	Bay

Frayed Knot: 1 (1 X)
Zvon: 1
Mets Guy: 0 (1 X)

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

How about Ike.

Remember when Ike had potential?

[Zvon]

Rey Ordonez

[Edgy MD]

You don't get RotY for potential, but performance, and Ike exhibited performance.

No.	Year	Player	Place	Pts.	First Pl. Votes	Share	Winner
1	1988	Jefferies	T6	3	0	2%	Sabo
2	1989	Jefferies	3	18	0	15%	Walton
3	1996	Ord��ez	5	7	1	5%	Hollandsworth
4	2003	Reyes	T8	1	0	1%	Willis
5	2004	Matsui	T6	1	0	1%	Bay
6	2010	Davis	7	2	0	1%	Posey

Zvon: 2
Frayed Knot: 1 (1 X)
Mets Guy: 1 (1 X)

[Zvon]

Wiggy!

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Got to go with someone from Gen K.

Izzy?

[Edgy MD]

Sorry, Zvon. Force to unallow that answer and flag you for technically posting twice in a row. X OH!!

No.	Year	Player	Place	Pts.	First Pl. Votes	Share	Winner
1	1988	Jefferies	T6	3	0	2%	Sabo
2	1989	Jefferies	3	18	0	15%	Walton
3	1995	Isringhausen	T4	4	0	3%	Nomo
4	1996	Ord��ez	5	7	1	5%	Hollandsworth
5	2003	Reyes	T8	1	0	1%	Willis
6	2004	Matsui	T6	1	0	1%	Bay
7	2010	Davis	7	2	0	1%	Posey

Mets Guy: 2 (1 X)
Zvon: 1 (1 X)
Frayed Knot: 1 (1 X)

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Because too much of a good thing is even better, here's a list of every team's next to next to last ROY winner:


2008 Rays Evan Longoria
2006 Marlins Hanley Ramirez
2004 A's Bobby Crosby
1998 D'Backs -franchise has no ROY winners
1994 Royals Bob Hamelin
1994 Dodgers Raul Mondesi
1993 Rockies -franchise has one ROY winner-
1990 Braves Dave Justice
1989 Cubs Jerome Walton
1985 Cardinals Vince Coleman
1984 Mariners Alvin Davis
1979 Twins John Castino
1977 Orioles Eddie Murray
1977 Blue Jays -franchise has two ROY winners-
1976 Tigers Mark Fidrych
1976 Reds Pat Zachry
1975 Red Sox Fred Lynn
1973 Giants Gary Matthews
1972 Mets Jon Matlack
1971 Indians Chris Chambliss
1970 Yankees Thurman Munson
1970 (Expos)/Nationals Carl Morton
1969 (Pilots)/Brewers -franchise has two ROY winners-
1969 Padres -franchise has two ROY winners-
1966 White Sox Tommie Agee
1964 Phillies Richie Allen
1962 Astros/Colt .45's -franchise has one ROY winner-
1961 Angels -franchise has two ROY winners-
1961 (Senators)/Rangers -franchise has two ROY winners-
1947* Pirates -franchise has one ROY winner-


* first year of ROY award

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[Edgy MD]

No.	Year	Player	Place	Pts.	First Pl. Votes	Share	Winner
1	1988	Jefferies	T6	3	0	2%	Sabo
2	1989	Jefferies	3	18	0	15%	Walton
3	1994	Jones	T8	3	0	2%	Mondesi
4	1995	Isringhausen	T4	4	0	3%	Nomo
5	1996	Ord��ez	5	7	1	5%	Hollandsworth
6	2003	Reyes	T8	1	0	1%	Willis
8	2010	Davis	7	2	0	1%	Posey

Mets Guy: 2 (1 X)
Zvon: 1 (1 X)
Frayed Knot: 1 (1 X)
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Five more rookie sensations out there.

[DocTee]

Kevin Mitchell?

[Edgy MD]

Because too much of a good thing is even better, here's a list of every team's next to next to last ROY winner:... ...1972 Mets Jon Matlack

Darryl Strawberry ain't stone soup.

[Edgy MD]

Kevin Mitchell?

Good call.

No.	Year	Player	Place	Pts.	First Pl. Votes	Share	Winner
1	1986	Mitchell	3	22	1	18%	Worrell
2	1988	Jefferies	T6	3	0	2%	Sabo
3	1989	Jefferies	3	18	0	15%	Walton
4	1994	Jones	T8	3	0	2%	Mondesi
5	1995	Isringhausen	T4	4	0	3%	Nomo
6	1996	Ord��ez	5	7	1	5%	Hollandsworth
7	2003	Reyes	T8	1	0	1%	Willis
8	2004	Matsui	T6	1	0	1%	Bay
9	2010	Davis	7	2	0	1%	Posey

Mets Guy: 2 (1 X)
Zvon: 1 (1 X)
Frayed Knot: 1 (1 X)
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DocTee: 1

Four more Mets rookies to go.

[DocTee]

Dave Magadan .

[Centerfield]

Jeff Kent.

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Because too much of a good thing is even better, here's a list of every team's next to next to last ROY winner:... ...1972 Mets Jon Matlack Darryl Strawberry ain't stone soup.