The Bartolo Colon 20 / 30 / 41 / 25 / 50 Trivia Quiz

[Edgy MD]

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[Frayed Knot]

Livan Hernandez - out of baseball by the time he was 37 (or so the record claims)
Jose Contreras - Hasn't started a game since 2009 and hasn't started at least 25 since 2007
Bert Blyleven - Started 24 games at age 41 ... oh so close

But Don Sutton is correct!! He's correct twice in fact.

PITCHER	# Times	AGE
PHIL NIEKRO	7	41, 43 - 48
JAMIE MOYER	6	41 - 46
CHARLIE HOUGH	5	41 - 45
NOLAN RYAN	5	41 - 45
	3
RANDY JOHNSON	3	41, 42, 44
DAVID WELLS	3	41, 42, 44
GREG MADDUX	2	41 - 42
DON SUTTON	2	41, 42
	2
	2
ROGER CLEMENS	2	41 - 42
DENNIS MARTINEZ	1	41
	1
ANDY PETTITTE	1	41
TIM WAKEFIELD	1	41
STEVE CARLTON	1	42
JERRY KOOSMAN	1	41
TOM SEAVER	1	41
TOM GLAVINE	1	41

Incorrect:
Livan Hernandez
El Duque Hernandez
Jose Contreras
Bert Blyleven

[batmagadanleadoff]

[Frayed Knot]

I don't know what that is - but whoever it is I'm pretty sure it's wrong.

[Edgy MD]

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[Frayed Knot]

Brother Phil was the first guess but it took a while to think of Joe, even though he's another one of the two-timers.

PITCHER	# Times	AGES
PHIL NIEKRO	7	41, 43 - 48
JAMIE MOYER	6	41 - 46
CHARLIE HOUGH	5	41 - 45
NOLAN RYAN	5	41 - 45
	3
RANDY JOHNSON	3	41, 42, 44
DAVID WELLS	3	41, 42, 44
GREG MADDUX	2	41 - 42
DON SUTTON	2	41, 42
JOE NIEKRO	2	41, 42
	2
ROGER CLEMENS	2	41 - 42
DENNIS MARTINEZ	1	41
	1
ANDY PETTITTE	1	41
TIM WAKEFIELD	1	41
STEVE CARLTON	1	42
JERRY KOOSMAN	1	41
TOM SEAVER	1	41
TOM GLAVINE	1	41

Incorrect:
Livan Hernandez
El Duque Hernandez
Jose Contreras
Bert Blyleven

[dinosaur jesus]

[Gwreck]

I have no idea who gun-outhouse is.

My guess is Tom Candiotti. I really hope that's not the same guess as above.

[Frayed Knot]

Of course, he always used to say that while he may be over 40, his left elbow was still in its teens.

PITCHER	# Times	AGES
PHIL NIEKRO	7	41, 43 - 48
JAMIE MOYER	6	41 - 46
CHARLIE HOUGH	5	41 - 45
NOLAN RYAN	5	41 - 45
TOMMY JOHN	3	41, 44 - 45
RANDY JOHNSON	3	41, 42, 44
DAVID WELLS	3	41, 42, 44
GREG MADDUX	2	41 - 42
DON SUTTON	2	41, 42
JOE NIEKRO	2	41, 42
	2
ROGER CLEMENS	2	41 - 42
DENNIS MARTINEZ	1	41
	1
ANDY PETTITTE	1	41
TIM WAKEFIELD	1	41
STEVE CARLTON	1	42
JERRY KOOSMAN	1	41
TOM SEAVER	1	41
TOM GLAVINE	1	41

Incorrect:
Livan Hernandez
El Duque Hernandez
Jose Contreras
Bert Blyleven
Tom Candiotti
Chick Tattoo

[Edgy MD]

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[Frayed Knot]

Ummmm ...
Frankenfruiter?
Dog the Banana Hunter?
I am Hungry, Yellow?
Oscar M. Chiquita?
Frank Dole?
Slippery Buns?
Brat Worst?



Ohhhh, Frank Tanana
In that case, it's wrong.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

(Or is that too early?)

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

[MFS62]

Is one of those things supposed to be Gaylord Perry?
If not, that's my guess.

Later

[Frayed Knot]

Gaylord Perry was not correct in either guess - he did make 25 or more starts at the ages of 41, 43 & 44, but he did so prior to 1984 so he just misses the 'last 30 seasons' cutoff.

David Wells IS correct, but it was also correct when it was first guessed some 10 hours ago (check the chart)

And, to the best of my knowledge, John Chickenfat never pitched in the major leagues.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Schmaltz/"Smoltz," ya gentile.

[Frayed Knot]

Rule 1: Telling Yiddish jokes to WASPs is a waste of time. It just draws blank stares.

Rule 2: Smoltz is wrong. He did it at 40 but not at 41 or 42


Two words: CHICKEN, EVOLUTION

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

So, I was just about to post a rebus for my next guess, but thought better of it. After all, one has to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, etc.

[Frayed Knot]

That's one of 'em

PITCHER	# Times	AGES
PHIL NIEKRO	7	41, 43 - 48
JAMIE MOYER	6	41 - 46
CHARLIE HOUGH	5	41 - 45
NOLAN RYAN	5	41 - 45
TOMMY JOHN	3	41, 44 - 45
RANDY JOHNSON	3	41, 42, 44
DAVID WELLS	3	41, 42, 44
GREG MADDUX	2	41 - 42
DON SUTTON	2	41, 42
JOE NIEKRO	2	41, 42
KENNY ROGERS	2	41, 43
ROGER CLEMENS	2	41 - 42
DENNIS MARTINEZ	1	41
	1
ANDY PETTITTE	1	41
TIM WAKEFIELD	1	41
STEVE CARLTON	1	42
JERRY KOOSMAN	1	41
TOM SEAVER	1	41
TOM GLAVINE	1	41

Incorrect:
Livan Hernandez
El Duque Hernandez
Jose Contreras
Bert Blyleven
Tom Candiotti
John Smoltz
Gaylord Perry
Chick Tattoo

[DocTee]

Danny Darwin

[Frayed Knot]

Yup, Danny Darwin it is, an answer that I wouldn't have come up with if given all week. Maybe it's because he spent all that time in AL but, to me anyway, he's got to be the most anonymous 21 year ML vet in the recent era.

Kind of a weird career too.
21 years in the majors split among Texas, Houston, Boston, San Fran, Milwaukee, Pitt, Toronto, and the ChiSox.
But he started barely half the time (371 starts - 716 appearances) and almost 20% of those starts came after he turned 40 - starting 25, 24, & 25 games at age 40, 41 & 42 in the final three years of his career, ending with the 1998 Giants.

He wound up with 171 wins (lost 182), had a decent career ERA (3.84) and WHiP (1.27) and led the league in ERA & ERA+ once, WHiP twice, low walk rate & low HR rate once each - yet never made an AS team, never got a single CY vote, and never appeared in a post-season game (despite being on the �86 Astros).

PITCHER	# Times	AGES
PHIL NIEKRO	7	41, 43 - 48
JAMIE MOYER	6	41 - 46
CHARLIE HOUGH	5	41 - 45
NOLAN RYAN	5	41 - 45
TOMMY JOHN	3	41, 44 - 45
RANDY JOHNSON	3	41, 42, 44
DAVID WELLS	3	41, 42, 44
GREG MADDUX	2	41 - 42
DON SUTTON	2	41, 42
JOE NIEKRO	2	41, 42
KENNY ROGERS	2	41, 43
ROGER CLEMENS	2	41 - 42
DENNIS MARTINEZ	1	41
DANNY DARWIN	1	42
ANDY PETTITTE	1	41
TIM WAKEFIELD	1	41
STEVE CARLTON	1	42
JERRY KOOSMAN	1	41
TOM SEAVER	1	41
TOM GLAVINE	1	41

[Fman99]

Photo guesses are the best. I didn't have time to put random images there and make people guess who the hell I was talking about.

[MFS62]

So, who was Fred "Punch in the Nuts" Cabbage?

Later

[Frayed Knot]

Time to dust off this thread from the pre-season as today's was Bartolo's 25th start of the year, meaning he joins the club of 41 year olds with 25 or more starts becoming the 21st pitcher since 1984 to do so.
And it looks like he's on his way to 30 this season and he'd be a tough guy to bet against for next season as well (whether with the Mets or somewhere else, or a combo of the two).


Previous club members

PITCHER	# Times	AGES
PHIL NIEKRO	7	41, 43 - 48
JAMIE MOYER	6	41 - 46
CHARLIE HOUGH	5	41 - 45
NOLAN RYAN	5	41 - 45
TOMMY JOHN	3	41, 44 - 45
RANDY JOHNSON	3	41, 42, 44
DAVID WELLS	3	41, 42, 44
GREG MADDUX	2	41 - 42
DON SUTTON	2	41, 42
JoE NIEKRO	2	41, 42
KENNY ROGERS	2	41, 43
ROGER CLEMENS	2	41 - 42
DENNIS MARTINEZ	1	41
DANNY DARWIN	1	42
ANDY PETTITTE	1	41
TIM WAKEFIELD	1	41
STEVE CARLTON	1	42
JERRY KOOSMAN	1	41
TOM SEAVER	1	41
TOM GLAVINE	1	41