going to WAR with your metly hitters (quiz)

[seawolf17]

Gary Carter?

[metsmarathon]

at some point in his baseball career, gary carter was a teammate of the correct answer. but he's never been a teammate of himself, so he's not correct.
and if angel pagan making htis list isn't enough of a curve ball, well, wait until the last guy is revealed.

hey guy, i don't make the stats. i just make the lists and choose frustratingly arbitrary cutoff points.

1. lenny dykstra 5.18 WAR/600 PA
2. beltran 5.12 WAR/600 PA
3. john olerud 5.11 WAR/600 PA
4. lance johnson 5.10 WAR/600 PA
5. darryl strawberry 4.81 WAR/600 PA
6. david wright 4.70 WAR/600 PA
7. keith hernandez 4.32 WAR/600 PA
8. edgardo alfonzo 3.98 WAR/600 PA
9. angel pagan 3.94 WAR/600 PA
10. bernard gilkey 3.91 WAR/600 PA
11. john stearns 3.78 WAR/600 PA
12. mike piazza 3.70 WAR/600 PA
13. robin ventura 3.69 WAR/600 PA
14.
15. jose reyes 3.43 WAR/600 PA

not in the top 15

dave magadan #16 3.38 WAR/600 PA
tommie agee #18 3.13 WAR/600 PA
kevin mcreynolds #20 2.93 WAR/600 PA
mookie wilson #21 2.88 WAR/600 PA
howard johnson #22 2.86 WAR/600 PA
gary carter #23 2.77 WAR/600 PA
wally backman #29 2.57 WAR/600 PA
jeff kent #30 2.53 WAR/600 PA
bobby bonilla #32 2.44 WAR/600 PA
cleon jones #34 2.33 WAR/600 PA
gregg jeffries #41 1.95 WAR/600 PA
carlos delgado #47 1.42 WAR/600 PA
rusty staub #49 1.40 WAR/600 PA

marlon byrd (unranked) 5.17 WAR/600 PA
moises alou (unranked) 3.33 WAR/600 PA
mike cameron (unranked) 2.79 WAR/600PA
eddie murray (unranked) 1.21 WAR/600 PA
roger cedeno (unranked) 0.37 WAR/600 PA
rey ordonez (unranked) 0.15 WAR/600 PA

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ellis Valentine? (Carter's teammate - check... wore 17 ... check ... um, got some WAR value from D ... check ... good hitter? uh ...)

[metsmarathon]

valentine racked up a grand total of -0.1 WAR in his 526 metly plate appearances. i could add him to the bottom of the list, if you really want me to...

[metsmarathon]

at this point, i don't know wether i should throw out another hint. y'all have should enough to crack the case.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ellis Valentine was a pretty good player who, undeservedly, got the superstar treatment because Bill James hadn't gone mainstream yet. (See, also, Garvey, Steve for an extreme example of this '70s phenomenon)

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

metsmarathon wrote: at this point, i don't know wether i should throw out another hint. y'all have should enough to crack the case.

YOUR HINTS SUCK!!!

[Ceetar]

I just looked it up. I was, and they are, never going to get it. (provided I did my math right, but still)

[metsmarathon]

yabbut, knowing the answers, you have to admit that the hints i'm throwing out there are pretty good, right?

[Ceetar]

metsmarathon wrote: yabbut, knowing the answers, you have to admit that the hints i'm throwing out there are pretty good, right?

oh, yeah. They're good hints. The answer is right there, staring. Clearly we just don't know the Mets as well as we think we do.

[Edgy MD]

Wore 17 and played with Gary Carter, but not on the Mets. Gonna drive me bonkers.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

This is killing me.

[Ceetar]

They're out of guesses it feels like. Give them progressively easier hints.

[MFS62]

Thon, stop torturing us.
If you don't give us the answer, we will torture YOU.
We will lock you in a warm, humid, room and play a continuous loop of Suzyn Waldmann Yankee comments.
You have been warned.

Later

[metsmarathon]

k. fine. i still think the hints i'm giving you guys are good enough.

if you still can't get it, i'll ask this guy to bring you the answer.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Kris Benson!

[Edgy MD]

Bobby Klaus!

[metsmarathon]

in kris benson's two years with the mets, h amassed a grand total of 2.8 WAR combined between his pitching and his hitting. that's way less than our correct answer guy.

and neither he nor bobby klaus ever wore the uniform number 17 in the majors.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm trying to think whether or not the Mets ever had a player named "Nick Kringle".

[Ceetar]

That's both an obtuse, cruel, and awesome hint btw.

[metsmarathon]

do you guys really need another clue after all i've given you? over the course of the mystery met hitter's career, he was lucky enough to play enough seasons to get his name on a hall of fame ballot. come time to tally the votes, he fell short of enshrinement. got so few votes, he fell off the ballot altogether, though some think his fate was a little unfair.

[batmagadanleadoff]

metsmarathon wrote: do you guys really need another clue after all i've given you? over the course of the mystery met hitter's career, he was lucky enough to play enough seasons to get his name on a hall of fame ballot.

You already told us that he played for 16 seasons. So the HOF ballot clue wasn't much of a clue. Not that I need a clue. I'm boycotting the rest of this quiz. Remember? I'd figure it out in 5 minutes if I really wanted to.

[metsmarathon]

if you need me to spell it out, i certainly could....

[Ceetar]

metsmarathon wrote: do you guys really need another clue after all i've given you? over the course of the mystery met hitter's career, he was lucky enough to play enough seasons to get his name on a hall of fame ballot. come time to tally the votes, he fell short of enshrinement. got so few votes, he fell off the ballot altogether, though some think his fate was a little unfair.

Still holds plenty of Mets records.

[MFS62]

Felix Millan.

Later

[Edgy MD]

I've been weighing Millan for two days. But I can't see where he played with Carter.

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: I've been weighing Millan for two days. But I can't see where he played with Carter.

I got confused by all those hints. Missed that one. But he did have lots of dWAR.

Later

[metsmarathon]

Ceetar wrote: metsmarathon wrote: do you guys really need another clue after all i've given you? over the course of the mystery met hitter's career, he was lucky enough to play enough seasons to get his name on a hall of fame ballot. come time to tally the votes, he fell short of enshrinement. got so few votes, he fell off the ballot altogether, though some think his fate was a little unfair. Still holds plenty of Mets records.

shush, you! my quiz, my hints.

besides, i think the hall of fame ballot thing was a perfectly fine hint. its not like everys single player who plays 10 years or more gets on the ballot (is it?). he had to be quite good enough to get on there. i mean, each year, sure, there's a bit of mediocrity at the bottom fringes of it, but there's a merit thing to getting on the ballot... or am i wrong...?

regardless, the answer is there just waiting for you.

[Ceetar]

metsmarathon wrote: metsmarathon wrote: do you guys really need another clue after all i've given you? over the course of the mystery met hitter's career, he was lucky enough to play enough seasons to get his name on a hall of fame ballot. come time to tally the votes, he fell short of enshrinement. got so few votes, he fell off the ballot altogether, though some think his fate was a little unfair. Still holds plenty of Mets records. shush, you! my quiz, my hints. besides, i think the hall of fame ballot thing was a perfectly fine hint. its not like everys single player who plays 10 years or more gets on the ballot (is it?). he had to be quite good enough to get on there. i mean, each year, sure, there's a bit of mediocrity at the bottom fringes of it, but there's a merit thing to getting on the ballot... or am i wrong...? regardless, the answer is there just waiting for you.

my bad. I don't want to be in the crosshairs when they [crossout]figure it out[/crossout] you tell them anyway.

[metsmarathon]

no. no you don't.

i'm actually looking forward to the big reveal.

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