Camouflage Uniforms

[Gwreck]

From the "not a good idea department:"

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/79418/mets-unveil-camouflage-jerseys



"Military Mondays" with free tickets to servicemen and women? Great.
This jersey? Horrible. I'd gladly donate to a military-related charity if they just didn't wear it.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Of course, Jay Horwitz looks good in anything.

[Ceetar]

Gwreck wrote: "Military Mondays" with free tickets to servicemen and women? Great. .

Like they didn't do this stuff already without inflicting it on the actual game. There are plenty of opportunities to use your status of being a major league baseball team for good and for promotion of good causes without mixing it with the actual game. But fine, let's get more silly stuff going then. Can we get spiderman uniforms for the next movie release? cause that'd be neat.

But it's only 5 games at least.

[Zvon]

Could be worse.
http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/west-virginia-camo-baseball-uniforms.jpg
But those are awful. Another jersey to sell but who on earth is gonna buy one of those?

[Frayed Knot]

It's one thing for a military town like San Diego to do their deal once a week.
This, on the other hand, has the smell of doing it for political correctness/pr reasons (Watch Us Care!!)
There are enough ways to honor vets without (literally) wearing it on your sleeves.

And I'm sure that replicas of the jerseys will be available for sale in the lobby on your way out.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Gwreck wrote:

Honestly, I'm not a shill. I'm the hardest working
guy in baseball!

[Edgy MD]

"Hi, Joan. It's Fred Wilpon."

"Hi, Fred."

"We wanted you to know. We're un-retiring number 14."

"You're WHAT?!"

"Yeah, you know. For Jay Horwitz."

"Oh, well, you should have told me that up front. You've got to take care of Jay."

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ceetar wrote: Gwreck wrote: "Military Mondays" with free tickets to servicemen and women? Great. . Like they didn't do this stuff already without inflicting it on the actual game. There are plenty of opportunities to use your status of being a major league baseball team for good and for promotion of good causes without mixing it with the actual game. But fine, let's get more silly stuff going then. Can we get spiderman uniforms for the next movie release? cause that'd be neat. But it's only 5 games at least.

Wait a second! There's something about the Mets you don't like? Did you just criticize something Metly?

[batmagadanleadoff]

If I were the Mets, I'd wanna camouflage myself.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

I don't have a problem with them, and I think it's nice that the team is doing something nice for the military. Now, what name is that on the back of that jersey? We can see the stitching through the collar. That doesn't say "Hodges."

[Zvon]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I don't have a problem with them, and I think it's nice that the team is doing something nice for the military. Now, what name is that on the back of that jersey? We can see the stitching through the collar. That doesn't say "Hodges."

Yes. Hodges W/a "Y".

[Ceetar]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ceetar wrote: Gwreck wrote: "Military Mondays" with free tickets to servicemen and women? Great. . Like they didn't do this stuff already without inflicting it on the actual game. There are plenty of opportunities to use your status of being a major league baseball team for good and for promotion of good causes without mixing it with the actual game. But fine, let's get more silly stuff going then. Can we get spiderman uniforms for the next movie release? cause that'd be neat. But it's only 5 games at least. Wait a second! There's something about the Mets you don't like? Did you just criticize something Metly?

Beer selection is subpar as well.

[G-Fafif]

I was worried for a few minutes that the Mets didn't love America. Glad they cleared that up.

[Edgy MD]

But just to be clear, they still can't wear the emergency responder caps on September 11, because somehow --- among the Mets, MLB, New ERA, and the MLBPA --- nobody yet has hired somebody smart enough to clear up any possible conflicts there.

[Guest d'Kong76]

I was worried for a few minutes that batmags didn't love The Mets. Glad he cleared that up.

[Guest themetfairy]

Let me see David Wright model the camo jersey before I render final judgment.

As for buying one, no. I know this is shallow, but I think I'd look horrible in that pattern.

[TransMonk]

Yuck. Those are ugly.

Do a portion of the proceeds from these jersey sales support vets or troops in any way? Doesn't look like it from what I can see. Looks like this idea is as much about supporting the Wilpons as it is about supporting the troops.

[Ceetar]

TransMonk wrote: Yuck. Those are ugly. Do a portion of the proceeds from these jersey sales support vets or troops in any way? Doesn't look like it from what I can see. Looks like this idea is as much about supporting the Wilpons as it is about supporting the troops.

Sounds like it's just an alt, but they do support Veterans already via the Welcome Back Veterans thingy, I don't know if this will end up enhancing that, but it seems like that's the goal.

Edgy MD wrote: But just to be clear, they still can't wear the emergency responder caps on September 11, because somehow --- among the Mets, MLB, New ERA, and the MLBPA --- nobody yet has hired somebody smart enough to clear up any possible conflicts there.

Don't want them to wear those either, but it does seem like if they can do this, they should be able to do that. Although at least these are Mets jerseys.

[Edgy MD]

The only way this can come out as a cynical way to directly further enwealthen the Wilpon clan is if they manage to sell more tickets on Mondays. Seems perhaps just as likely that they'll lose money, as the promotion involves granting complimentary tickets to U.S. military personnel with an active or retired military identification and up to three other guests.

[TransMonk]

Average Monday home attendance was 27,187 in 2013 - 65% of capacity...plenty of seats to spare.

Also, it's another jersey option and jerseys don't sell cheap.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I didn't know that the military was broke and that the Pentagon needed baseball's money. Besides, don't they just print more money whenever they need it? If the Mets really wanted to help out, why not a Soup Kitchen Saturday? The homeless could get in for free on select Saturdays (with proof of homelessness, obviously) and receive free soup and potato chips. Maybe the Mets'll even let Paul Lukas's readers design the Soup Kitchen Saturday Mets unis.

[Zvon]

I'm not totally against the thought of camo. There are some kool camo patterns out there. This isn't one of them. This looks like puke. Does look good on Jay though.

[Edgy MD]

TransMonk wrote: Average Monday home attendance was 27,187 in 2013 - 65% of capacity...plenty of seats to spare. Also, it's another jersey option and jerseys don't sell cheap.

Unless they sell at a CitiField store, giving the Mets a chunk of the markup, doesn't all MLB-licensed merchandise revenue get otherwise shared?

[Guest d'Kong76]

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: TransMonk wrote: Average Monday home attendance was 27,187 in 2013 - 65% of capacity...plenty of seats to spare. Also, it's another jersey option and jerseys don't sell cheap. Unless they sell at a CitiField store, giving the Mets a chunk of the markup, doesn't all MLB-licensed merchandise revenue get otherwise shared?

To a point, yes.
Each team has some sort of area in which they can own outlets and keep the profits - it's why NYM stores sell other teams stuff as well, so they can make money off of their stuff as well as any other team gear. Such outlets would obviously include stores within CitiField but others in the NYC area as well. But outside of those little exclusivity zones and for sales via licensed retailers (Modell's et al) the revenues generated from merchandising is split 30 ways.

[A Boy Named Seo]

I wish those jerseys worked better.

[ashie62]

Those are just butt ugly, well intended or not...

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

There are many, many, many better ways-- efficacy-wise and aesthetics-wise-- for a sports team/potential jersey-purchaser to assist or pay homage to veterans.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Edgy MD wrote: But just to be clear, they still can't wear the emergency responder caps on September 11, because somehow --- among the Mets, MLB, New ERA, and the MLBPA --- nobody yet has hired somebody smart enough to clear up any possible conflicts there.

This is an interesting point. When they couldn't wear the first responders caps on the field, there was all kinds of angry responses here. So they find a way to honor folks, and there are still all kinds of criticism. Are we at a point where we are so discouraged that we will rip on them no matter what they do?

[Frayed Knot]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Are we at a point where we are so discouraged that we will rip on them no matter what they do?

No, I think folks here are at a point where they're discouraged when the team is prevented from doing something that was both spontaneous and unique to them and yet jumps on board when a generic 'tribute' is arranged as part of a league-wide promotion because it can sell more licensed gear.