Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Series

[Centerfield]

Oh, and by the way, I could watch the highlight of that ball falling between Wainwright and Yadier Fucking Molina on loop all day.

The only way it would have been better is if it caromed up and hit them (both) in the nads.

Fuck Wainwright. Fuck Molina.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

That.

[metirish]

A little conspiracy...Lester using vaseline.


http://deadspin.com/cardinals-minor-leaguer-thinks-jon-lester-is-a-cheater-1451341587

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Nice. Lester is the kind of guy who would use vaseline, of that I have no doubt, and those few captures do look fishy, but fair fucks to him for getting away with it.

[Edgy MD]

Tim Marchman wrote: It's almost certainly just pine tar, which pitchers use on cold, dry nights because the ball is hard and slick, in part because they don't want it to slip out of their hand and hit someone in the head. Teams generally don't gripe about this because there's a mutual understanding that it's in everyone's interests for pitchers to able to grip the ball properly. Why haven't the St. Louis Cardinals taught this young pitcher how the game is played? Isn't their some kind of system, or way, they could implement?

Tim Marchman, makes the "there"/"their" error.

[metirish]

Isn't pine tar black?

[Ceetar]

pitch f/x shows no deviant movement on pitches however.

[MFS62]

A little conspiracy...Lester using vaseline. http://deadspin.com/cardinals-minor-leaguer-thinks-jon-lester-is-a-cheater-1451341587

Deadspin is going to get a letter from Unilever, the company that produces Vaseline Brand Pertoleum Jelly ever since they bought Cheesebrough-Pond's Inc.

When I worked for CPI, they were very protective of that brand name, trying to keep it from coming a generic through common usage. So, every time a paper carried a story about Gaylord Perry throwing the "Vaseline ball", the Corporate Law department would send them a letter. It would ask them to call it just a "pertoleum jelly ball" or a "grease ball" without using the copyrighted brand name.
One time, Associated press had a story about Perry that was picked up by over 5,000 papers and other media outlets around the country. And CPI sent a letter to every one spotted by their clipping service.
Now that we cited this, CPI would probably try to send us one, too, but I'm not sure how they handle stories on the Internet.

Later

[metirish]

Incredible, so vaseline is the brand name and not the actual product?, we should be calling it petroleum jelly?

Learn something new everyday.

[Ceetar]

metirish wrote: Incredible, so vaseline is the brand name and not the actual product?, we should be calling it petroleum jelly? Learn something new everyday.

Dumpster is a brand name as well.

[metirish]

I can't handle all this learning...

[ashie62]

metirish wrote: Incredible, so vaseline is the brand name and not the actual product?, we should be calling it petroleum jelly? Learn something new everyday.

It is called ball lube..

[G-Fafif]

Times salutes people watching WS games in daytime from when that used to be necessary. This one stretches the boundaries of the concept just a bit, back to the climax of the previous round, but we'll take it.

[Frayed Knot]

Ceetar wrote: metirish wrote: Incredible, so vaseline is the brand name and not the actual product?, we should be calling it petroleum jelly? Learn something new everyday. Dumpster is a brand name as well.

IIRC, Xerox is an example of a company which lost control over its name, at least in one aspect.
Because XEROX had introduced the first marketable paper copier, the phrase 'making a Xerox copy' was used so often to describe the process that it was eventually ruled to have become common enough in general use that it was no longer something the company could claim as a copyright. Obviously that doesn't mean another company could manufacture a copy machine and simply stamp the name XEROX on it, but they could not be legally barred for saying their product was great for making "xerox copies" of your tax returns.

Vaseline, Dumpster, and even Velcro I believe, remain copyrighted names despite their use in common language.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

You don't hear many people ask for an "adhesive bandage" or a "cola," either.

Centerfield wrote: Everybody talks about how sensitive Beltran is, but I can really see why. I'd be beyond sensitive if that were me. I'd be outright antagonistic. He is a terrific player and a gamer, and he has to continually hear that he's soft, disinterested and overrated.

Hell, I'd be Barry Bonds, minus the 'roids, but plus a couple of florid-cursing-at-press-conference incidents and juvenile-and-mean-prank-on-reporter kerfuffles.

[Zvon]

Well, Beltraan's back and all is well. Singled in the first. Had a check swing and he looked okay, no pain.
This Wacha kid is fun to watch when he's not pitching against the Mets.

[metirish]

OMFG, the way Buck and McCarver are fellating Wacha you'd be forgiven if you thought he was Christy Mathewson.

[metirish]

Gomes is a winner...has he ever actually won anything?

[Zvon]

That was one kool ricochet. If it didn't get caught up in the bottom of the wall that coulda been an inside the parker.

Nice play Pedrioa. St.Lou on the board on a ground out. 1-0

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

ESPN radio playing a Rangers game instead of the World Series.

Getting staticy signal instead from 970 am in Hackensack. Are you kidding me?

[Frayed Knot]

metirish wrote: Gomes is a winner...has he ever actually won anything?

Hey, he's been on three -- COUNT 'EM, THREE -- post-season teams during his eleven year career!
His first two teams lost in the first round. This BoSox team is his third.
IOW, he's now 2-2 in playoff series for his career.

[Zvon]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ESPN radio playing a Rangers game instead of the World Series. Getting staticy signal instead from 970 am in Hackensack. Are you kidding me?

That's messed up.

Big DP. I thought the Sox were gonna answer right back. Here's that Gnomes guy.

OOO, that was a nasty strike from Wacha. And he pops out.

[Frayed Knot]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ESPN radio playing a Rangers game instead of the World Series. Getting staticy signal instead from 970 am in Hackensack. Are you kidding me?

That's why the Mets didn't want to take their radiocasts to ESPN, too many conflicts.
And with the national broadcasts, baseball often isn't the Four-Letter Network's top priority.

[Zvon]

[bigpurple:120am9qw]PAPBOOM![/bigpurple:120am9qw]

[stevejrogers]

metirish wrote: OMFG, the way Buck and McCarver are fellating Wacha you'd be forgiven if you thought he was Christy Mathewson.

Still nothing compared to Howard Cosell though. The way he talked up Scott McGregor in 1979, you'd think the O's not only had the next Jim Palmer, but a combo of him, Seaver and Carlton in one pitcher!

[Edgy MD]

Zvon wrote: PAPBOOM![/bigpurple]

How did he behave? Did he carry himself appropriately around the bases?

[stevejrogers]

Frayed Knot wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ESPN radio playing a Rangers game instead of the World Series. Getting staticy signal instead from 970 am in Hackensack. Are you kidding me? That's why the Mets didn't want to take their radiocasts to ESPN, too many conflicts. And with the national broadcasts, baseball often isn't the Four-Letter Network's top priority.

To be fair, neither was the national broadcast when it was on WFAN and there was a Ranger/Knick conflict pre-ESPN or Net/Devil conflict post-ESPN.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: Zvon wrote: PAPBOOM![/bigpurple] How did he behave? Did he carry himself appropriately around the bases?

Very business like.

[Zvon]

whoa,WOW!

Sox get shabby.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Nubby little leadoff hit for Ellsbury, with the Boston lineup meat due up next?

Kindly sit down, Dick Torino and Pedroia. And with the way young Carlos Martinez is dealing, Papi should be worr-- wait... um... take a base, Papi?

Hope this works out for you, Matheny.