All-Star Voting Results

[bmfc1]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130604&content_id=49559596&c_id=mlb

Despite Sandoval being injured for part of the season, despite the ASG being played in New York, Sandoval is leading Wright.

Nothing for Murphy.

Buck in 3d which is as high as anyone other than Y. Molina and Posey will go.

[Guest vtmet]

winning teams tend to do well in the votings, regardless of each player's results...Giants/Reds/Cards/Braves have most of their players in the top spots...

and likewise, basement dwellers don't get representation...

[Edgy MD]

Yes, but historically, there usually is some bump for host teams, right?

Not that I'm rooting for that, at least, not on that basis.

[Ceetar]

vtmet wrote: winning teams tend to do well in the votings, regardless of each player's results...Giants/Reds/Cards/Braves have most of their players in the top spots... and likewise, basement dwellers don't get representation...

yes, because most of this voting is done by those fringe "Oh! Baseball is exciting this summer? cool!" fans not the diehards.

The voting is a travesty across the board every year. I've lost all ability to care. I love the game and all that, but MLB makes sure the best players are represented with a pretty good accuracy rate, so whatever.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Perhaps the voting is a proxy for actual fannies in the seats tickets used turnstile count attendance figures.

[metsmarathon]

bj upton has votes? hogwash!

[Ceetar]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Perhaps the voting is a proxy for actual fannies in the seats tickets used turnstile count attendance figures.

I wonder what the numbers are, but I doubt most ballots are cast in person.

[metirish]

It's a fucking joke....and crap like this makes me dislike the process more

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[nymr83]

Ceetar wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Perhaps the voting is a proxy for actual fannies in the seats tickets used turnstile count attendance figures. I wonder what the numbers are, but I doubt most ballots are cast in person.

That may have once been true, but probably not since they started internet voting.

[Guest vtmet]

metsmarathon wrote: bj upton has votes? hogwash!

Braves fans had heard that they got an Upton...they just didn't know which one (and Kate wasn't on the ballot)...

[Edgy MD]

Cursed Pablo Sandoval. It's that bloody cute nickname of his.

#VoteSugarpants

[nymr83]

Write in Edgardo Alfonzo!

[stevejrogers]

Kinda ranted about this after a blogger ranted for anarchy by voting for Colin Cowgil

http://mets360.com/?p=16577

First, it is unknown how many people in the general mass audience know about this, but in recent years MLB HAS been trying to resolve popularity contest issues by having the players vote as well. With the winners, or player runner-up getting selected if both votes are the same. It still can be seen as a popularity contest, but at least it is giving the peers a chance to vote as well. It also greatly reduces the chance for a manager to stack the bench and pitching staff (players vote for a good portion of starters and relievers) of his �guys.� Second, with the amount of various injuries that crop up, and whatnot, the chances of a player that truly deserves to be at the All-Star Game these days of not being selected in one form or another. Nor should it really be that big of a deal with whom starts, which is the reason for this campaign in the first place. Would it have been a nice feather in Wright�s cap last year to be the starter? Sure, but it would be far more greater to see David Wright start his first postseason game since Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS! And finally, at the end of the day, its still fan interaction. No matter how obnoxious the voting campaigns online and in the stadium for Lucas Duda or Daniel Murphy might be, it still is part of baseball�s effort to get fans involved. So, especially if younger fans are more and more involved in social media, then isn�t something for them worth the odd �wrong choice� here and there. And generally, as in the Sandoval-Wright case, sometimes it is a case of writing a wrong that happened in an earlier case. Not to mention, it is one thing to rail against a flawed system and cause chaos for the sake of causing chaos, but rather than going for anarchy, why not suggest ways for it to be fixed, besides being done away with entirely.

[Edgy MD]

It's "writing" a wrong?

I fail to see how such a discreditable process is a gift to the fans. It's about advertisers getting their logos in front of fans.

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: It's "writing" a wrong? I fail to see how such a discreditable process is a gift to the fans. It's about advertisers getting their logos in front of fans.

I'd agree that fans want to feel involved and included, especially in this social media world.

[stevejrogers]

Edgy MD wrote: It's "writing" a wrong? I fail to see how such a discreditable process is a gift to the fans. It's about advertisers getting their logos in front of fans.

1. It is when the webmaster is as bad at copy editing as the writer is on deadline...

2. Good point, but I wanted to note that, even with the commercialization, (IIRC, wasn't Gillette the sponsor even back when it returned in 1970?) it still promotes fan interaction.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Kinda ranted about this after a blogger ranted for anarchy by voting for Colin Cowgil Nor should it really be that big of a deal with whom starts, which is the reason for this campaign in the first place.

Whenever I'm not sure, I use the he/him rule to determine whether the proper word is "who" or "whom". Thus, I would pretend that I've answered a question and then form the actual question to my supposed answer -- actually two forms of the same question -- a "he" version and a "him" version. Then I'd determine which of the variations is the proper form:

1. Is it a big deal if he starts?

and then

2. Is it a big deal if him starts?


If the "he" version is proper -- then the proper word is "who". If it's "him", then it's "whom".


... so

"Nor should it really be that big of a deal with who starts, which is the reason for this campaign in the first place".


Me -- I could use some occasional help with colons and semi-colons. Sometimes, I don't give a shit and will just throw one of the two down all willy-nilly without any regard for whatever consequences may unfold.

[Zvon]

From The7Line:

[Zvon]

Voted at least 40 times tonight. Just kept the window open and every few commercials id vote a bunch. Once you get to that window with the cryptacrap you can stay there all day and vote over and over. Ill leave it up and vote some more again b4 I crash tonight.

[Zvon]

Zvon wrote: Voted at least 40 times tonight. Just kept the window open and every few commercials id vote a bunch. Once you get to that window with the cryptacrap you can stay there all day and vote over and over. Ill leave it up and vote some more again b4 I crash tonight.

And if you close the window and go back there, your votes are saved. Pretty kool beans. 60 votes for Wright and Murphy, and I was forced to vote for all the other positions and leagues. The price I had to pay

[HahnSolo]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: "Nor should it really be that big of a deal with who starts, which is the reason for this campaign in the first place".

Who seems like a nice enough guy, but I'd probably vote Votto for first base.