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Good WHIP

1. Pedro Martinez 1.0544 (LWFS) 5th all-time
2. Tom Seaver 1.1208
3. Johan Santana 1.1320 (LWFS)
4. Bret Saberhagen 1.1406 (Swan)
5. El Sid 1.1493 (LWFS)
6.
7. Warren Spahn 1.1946 (LWFS)
8. Jeff Reardon 1.1993 (dino jesus)
9.
10. Dean Chance 1.2122 (dino jesus)
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12. Rick Reed 1.2202 (G-Fafif)
13. Rick Aguilera 1.2266 (Gwreck)
14. Mickey Lolich 1.2272 (smg58)
15. Jon Matlack 1.2332 (LWFS)

Bad WHIP

16. Nolan Ryan 1.2473 (irish)
18. Tug McGraw 1.2544 (LWFS)
19T. David Cone 1.2561 (LWFS)
19T. Dwight Gooden 1.2561 (Gwreck)
21. Jerry Koosman 1.2588 (Ash)
23. Don Cardwell 1.2624 (Ash)
24. Orlando Hernandez 1.2627 (G-Fafif)
25. Jesse O-Rice-Co 1.263 (LWFS)
Dick Selma (Ash)
Gary Gentry (Ash)
Billy Wagner (Chad86)
Craig Swan (Vic Sage)
Al Leiter (Chad86)
Steve Trachsel (irish)
Mike Pelfrey (irish)
Ron Darling (irish)
Bobby Jones (DocTee)
Bob Ojeda (irish)
Tom Glavine (irish)
Frank Viola (smg58)
Armando Benitez (G-Fafif)
Ralph Terry (G-Fafif)


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3 2 1


Good WHIP

1. Pedro Martinez 1.0544 (LWFS) 5th all-time
2. Tom Seaver 1.1208
3. Johan Santana 1.1320 (LWFS)
4. Bret Saberhagen 1.1406 (Swan)
5. El Sid 1.1493 (LWFS)
6.
7. Warren Spahn 1.1946 (LWFS)
8. Jeff Reardon 1.1993 (dino jesus)
9.
10. Dean Chance 1.2122 (dino jesus)
11.
12. Rick Reed 1.2202 (G-Fafif)
13. Rick Aguilera 1.2266 (Gwreck)
14. Mickey Lolich 1.2272 (smg58)
15. Jon Matlack 1.2332 (LWFS)

Bad WHIP

16. Nolan Ryan 1.2473 (irish)
18. Tug McGraw 1.2544 (LWFS)
19T. David Cone 1.2561 (LWFS)
19T. Dwight Gooden 1.2561 (Gwreck)
21. Jerry Koosman 1.2588 (Ash)
22. Orel Hershiser 1.2606 (Ceetar)
23. Don Cardwell 1.2624 (Ash)
24. Orlando Hernandez 1.2627 (G-Fafif)
25. Jesse O-Rice-Co 1.263 (LWFS)
Dick Selma (Ash)
Gary Gentry (Ash)
Billy Wagner (Chad86)
Craig Swan (Vic Sage)
Al Leiter (Chad86)
Steve Trachsel (irish)
Mike Pelfrey (irish)
Ron Darling (irish)
Bobby Jones (DocTee)
Bob Ojeda (irish)
Tom Glavine (irish)
Frank Viola (smg58)
Armando Benitez (G-Fafif)
Ralph Terry (G-Fafif)


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3 2 1


Good WHIP

1. Pedro Martinez 1.0544 (LWFS) 5th all-time
2. Tom Seaver 1.1208
3. Johan Santana 1.1320 (LWFS)
4. Bret Saberhagen 1.1406 (Swan)
5. El Sid 1.1493 (LWFS)
6.
7. Warren Spahn 1.1946 (LWFS)
8. Jeff Reardon 1.1993 (dino jesus)
9.
10. Dean Chance 1.2122 (dino jesus)
11.
12. Rick Reed 1.2202 (G-Fafif)
13. Rick Aguilera 1.2266 (Gwreck)
14. Mickey Lolich 1.2272 (smg58)
15. Jon Matlack 1.2332 (LWFS)

Bad WHIP

16. Nolan Ryan 1.2473 (irish)
18. Tug McGraw 1.2544 (LWFS)
19T. David Cone 1.2561 (LWFS)
19T. Dwight Gooden 1.2561 (Gwreck)
21. Jerry Koosman 1.2588 (Ash)
22. Orel Hershiser 1.2606 (Ceetar)
23. Don Cardwell 1.2624 (Ash)
24. Orlando Hernandez 1.2627 (G-Fafif)
25. Jesse O-Rice-Co 1.263 (LWFS)
Dick Selma (Ash)
Gary Gentry (Ash)
Billy Wagner (Chad86)
Craig Swan (Vic Sage)
Al Leiter (Chad86)
Steve Trachsel (irish)
Mike Pelfrey (irish)
Ron Darling (irish)
Bobby Jones (DocTee)
Bob Ojeda (irish)
Tom Glavine (irish)
Frank Viola (smg58)
Armando Benitez (G-Fafif)
Ralph Terry (G-Fafif)
Octavio Dotel (Gwreck)


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Ralph Terry already guessed and rejected...but it might need to be checked again.


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This quiz is so tough, why it even stumped me, the quizmaster.


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Good WHIP

1. Pedro Martinez 1.0544 (LWFS) 5th all-time
2. Tom Seaver 1.1208
3. Johan Santana 1.1320 (LWFS)
4. Bret Saberhagen 1.1406 (Swan)
5. El Sid 1.1493 (LWFS)
6.
7. Ralph Terry 1.1864 (G-Fafif)
8. Warren Spahn 1.1946 (LWFS)
9. Jeff Reardon 1.1993 (dino jesus)
10. Mike Scott 1.2013 (chad86)
11. Dean Chance 1.2122 (dino jesus)
12.
13. Rick Reed 1.2202 (G-Fafif)
14. Rick Aguilera 1.2266 (Gwreck)
15. Mickey Lolich 1.2272 (smg58)


Bad WHIP

16. Jon Matlack 1.2332 (LWFS)
17. Nolan Ryan 1.2473 (irish)
19. Tug McGraw 1.2544 (LWFS)
20T. David Cone 1.2561 (LWFS)
20T. Dwight Gooden 1.2561 (Gwreck)
22. Jerry Koosman 1.2588 (Ash)
23. Orel Hershiser 1.2606 (Ceetar)
24. Don Cardwell 1.2624 (Ash)
25. Orlando Hernandez 1.2627 (G-Fafif)
26. Jesse O-Rice-Co 1.263 (LWFS)
Dick Selma (Ash)
Gary Gentry (Ash)
Billy Wagner (Chad86)
Craig Swan (Vic Sage)
Al Leiter (Chad86)
Steve Trachsel (irish)
Mike Pelfrey (irish)
Ron Darling (irish)
Bobby Jones (DocTee)
Bob Ojeda (irish)
Tom Glavine (irish)
Frank Viola (smg58)
Armando Benitez (G-Fafif)
Octavio Dotel (Gwreck)
R.A. Dickey (Ceetar)


MFS62 First Round Pick

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The Candy Man could - John Candelaria
Batters had to dread Scott, as in Mike.

Later


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This quiz is so tough, why it even stumped me, the quizmaster.


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Good WHIP

1. Pedro Martinez 1.0544 (LWFS) 5th all-time
2. Tom Seaver 1.1208
3. Johan Santana 1.1320 (LWFS)
4. Bret Saberhagen 1.1406 (Swan)
5. El Sid 1.1493 (LWFS)
6. John Candelaria 1.1862 (MFS62)
7. Ralph Terry 1.1864 (G-Fafif)
8. Warren Spahn 1.1946 (LWFS)
9. Jeff Reardon 1.1993 (dino jesus)
10. Mike Scott 1.2013 (chad86)
11. Dean Chance 1.2122 (dino jesus)
12.
13. Rick Reed 1.2202 (G-Fafif)
14. Rick Aguilera 1.2266 (Gwreck)
15. Mickey Lolich 1.2272 (smg58)


Bad WHIP

16. Jon Matlack 1.2332 (LWFS)
17. Nolan Ryan 1.2473 (irish)
19. Tug McGraw 1.2544 (LWFS)
20T. David Cone 1.2561 (LWFS)
20T. Dwight Gooden 1.2561 (Gwreck)
22. Jerry Koosman 1.2588 (Ash)
23. Orel Hershiser 1.2606 (Ceetar)
24. Don Cardwell 1.2624 (Ash)
25. Orlando Hernandez 1.2627 (G-Fafif)
26. Jesse O-Rice-Co 1.263 (LWFS)
Dick Selma (Ash)
Gary Gentry (Ash)
Billy Wagner (Chad86)
Craig Swan (Vic Sage)
Al Leiter (Chad86)
Steve Trachsel (irish)
Mike Pelfrey (irish)
Ron Darling (irish)
Bobby Jones (DocTee)
Bob Ojeda (irish)
Tom Glavine (irish)
Frank Viola (smg58)
Armando Benitez (G-Fafif)
Octavio Dotel (Gwreck)
R.A. Dickey (Ceetar)


MFS62 First Round Pick

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Well, if it isn't Octavio Dotel, its got to be his (evil ?) twin, Alejandro Pena.

Later


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Randy Jones?


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Randy Jones?


I think you meant:





Jones rounds out the list of close but no cigar career WHIP Mets. But this quiz is over. Last night, with three remaining top 15 WHIPsters to go (Scott, Candelaria and Pena) when MFS62 logged on, MFS62 nailed all three without erring. I didn't give him credit for Scott because Chad86 snuck in and beat him to Scott by a few minutes, but still, some impressive guesswork by MFS62. Alejandro Pena. Who would've known?




Good WHIP

1. Pedro Martinez 1.0544 (LWFS) 5th all-time
2. Tom Seaver 1.1208
3. Johan Santana 1.1320 (LWFS)
4. Bret Saberhagen 1.1406 (Swan)
5. El Sid 1.1493 (LWFS)
6. John Candelaria 1.1862 (MFS62)
7. Ralph Terry 1.1864 (G-Fafif)
8. Warren Spahn 1.1946 (LWFS)
9. Jeff Reardon 1.1993 (dino jesus)
10. Mike Scott 1.2013 (chad86)
11. Dean Chance 1.2122 (dino jesus)
12. Alejandro Pena 1.2197 (MFS62)
13. Rick Reed 1.2202 (G-Fafif)
14. Rick Aguilera 1.2266 (Gwreck)
15. Mickey Lolich 1.2272 (smg58)


Bad WHIP

16. Jon Matlack 1.2332 (LWFS)
17. Nolan Ryan 1.2473 (irish)
18. Randy Jones 1.2509 (metsguy)
19. Tug McGraw 1.2544 (LWFS)
20T. David Cone 1.2561 (LWFS)
20T. Dwight Gooden 1.2561 (Gwreck)
22. Jerry Koosman 1.2588 (Ash)
23. Orel Hershiser 1.2606 (Ceetar)
24. Don Cardwell 1.2624 (Ash)
25. Orlando Hernandez 1.2627 (G-Fafif)
26. Jesse O-Rice-Co 1.263 (LWFS)
Dick Selma (Ash)
Gary Gentry (Ash)
Billy Wagner (Chad86)
Craig Swan (Vic Sage)
Al Leiter (Chad86)
Steve Trachsel (irish)
Mike Pelfrey (irish)
Ron Darling (irish)
Bobby Jones (DocTee)
Bob Ojeda (irish)
Tom Glavine (irish)
Frank Viola (smg58)
Armando Benitez (G-Fafif)
Octavio Dotel (Gwreck)
R.A. Dickey (Ceetar)

Gwreck wrote:
Dotel would make the list (1.229 career WHIP) but he's 53.2 innings short of the 1000 minimum.


The chronically unloved Armando Benitez's career 1.217 WHIP would place him in 12th place on this list but for his lack of enough IP's, too.

G-Fafif wrote:
Ralph Terry already guessed and rejected...but it might need to be checked again.


I recall acknowledging Terry's name on the master bb-ref list when I was creating this quiz. But I had a momentary lapse though, forgetting that the before my time Terry was once a Met. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go and be young.


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Pedro's lifetime WHIP is 5th best all time, and the best among starters since WWI. The last time a starting pitcher that would finish with a career WHIP better than Pedro's would take the mound was almost 100 years ago (Ed Walsh, 1917). There is one reliever (not retired) with a better career WHIP than Pedro's.


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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Pedro's lifetime WHIP is 5th best all time, and the best among starters since WWI. The last time a starting pitcher that would finish with a career WHIP better than Pedro's would take the mound was almost 100 years ago (Ed Walsh, 1917). There is one reliever (not retired) with a better career WHIP than Pedro's.


and since he's scrawny and what not, no one will suspect him of PEDs so he'll get in to the "Hall of Fame".


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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Gwreck wrote:
Dotel would make the list (1.229 career WHIP) but he's 53.2 innings short of the 1000 minimum.


The chronically unloved Armando Benitez's career 1.217 WHIP would place him in 12th place on this list but for his lack of enough IP's, too.


Wagner (0.998) would actually top this list with 97 more IP.


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